GEARS W TX (146.115 MHz) recordings for 2026-01-14

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Speaker A: Qar 63 degrees 337 and holding. What was that, george? On 17. Sa.
Speaker B: Kilo oscar six, hotel victor sierra.

Speaker A: Kilo Oscar six, Hotel Victor Sierra.
Speaker B: You're sounding pretty decent.
Speaker A: Kilo Oscar 6, Odell Victor Sierra. I don't know if I'm getting this repeater or not. You may hear me.
Speaker B: Well, I think the question is, are you hearing us N6GRT here?
Speaker A: Yeah, I am hearing you. I'm getting, like I said, something off this repeater is just doing nothing but static non stop. Is anybody else hearing this or is it just me?
Speaker B: Well, you've got some sort of interference going for that to happen, it's not happening here at all.
Speaker A: Okay, roger that. Yeah, I'm getting this and the Carla one. Both are just giving nothing but static until I key up or hear somebody talk. So, yeah, I got something going on, I guess no other memory channel does it? Just this one set. So I got to figure out a bug, I guess.
Speaker B: Well, which radio is it?
Speaker A: Yeah, it's just a little yaesu 2980 mobile rig I have set up as my base and the radio is working fine before the last storm and I haven't been out here to check it for a little while and I came out today and I was just scrolling through to see if I'd hear anybody. And the stony. This one and the, and the Carla repeater, both just nothing but hiss and cackle until I talk into it or hear somebody talk. Then it's clear as a bell.
Speaker B: Well, when you say the car, the Carla repeater, which repeater are you talking about there?
Speaker A: Oh, I'd have to go into my memory bank. The same, the same station, just the different offset.
Speaker B: Oh yeah. So you're talking about the link side. Okay, yeah. Then you've got one of two possibilities. Either you have a carrier of some kind, you know, some kind of a carrier near you that's causing interference, or you've got, you. You may have something like that going and just need to adjust your squelch. But the interesting thing is that you'd have to adjust them. You probably would have to adjust the squelch for all channels to make this channel quiet down for you.
Speaker A: Yeah, the funny thing is I'll crank the squelch all the way to nothing and then it's still hissing and cackling through. So it's kind of an odd one.
Speaker B: Yeah, so that's almost for sure. Means that you've got some sort of gadget, you know, maybe a different radio or something on that order in your house that's putting out a carrier on this frequency. 146115. So if you took a picture, portable and walked around, you might be able to find. Get closer to it and figure out what it is.
Speaker A: Very good idea. Appreciate that. Yeah, like I said, everything was working fine before the last storm and came out here. And like I said, every other channel works great. Just this frequency. For some reason, it just kisses and cackling. So, yeah, I'll try that handheld. Like I said. I would think it's my radio, but it'd be odd just to be one frequency. So I don't know what else could be putting out noise, but I'll have to look around.
Speaker B: Well, just about every microprocessor control device and every. Every radio, they all have carriers inside that aren't on the frequency that you're actually listening to with that device. And they have, you know, crystals inside that make that carrier. So it may be something like that. And you may have a device in your house that just happens to be pretty close. Maybe it got me moved closer to the radio or something like that.
Speaker A: Very interesting. Yeah, I'll hunt that down. I appreciate your time and your help. Like I said, I'm newer and I was like, this radio was working great before the storm. Now all of a sudden, everything works great except this one channel. So, yeah, I'll do. Get the handy talk out and walk around and see what we can figure out. Much appreciated. Kilo Oscar 6, Hotel Victor Sierra. Saying seven threes.
Speaker B: Yeah, 73 3. And by the way, the hams actually have a terminology for that that we use sometimes, and it's called Fox Hunt. And your. Your carrier is the box that you're looking for.
Speaker A: Very good. You have a great rest of your day.
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Speaker A: Kilo oscar 6, hotel victor sierra.
Speaker B: Six. Grg. Mike here. Did you figure it out?
Speaker A: I did, Mike. I took my little FT60 and I walked around. It was a new television we just purchased, so, man, you nailed it. I just learned something today I'll keep with you the rest of my life. I walked her out. It's sure as snot it was the new tv. Well, I hope you look up Fox
Speaker B: Hunt, because you've just done one and a lot of people think they're a lot of fun. I've done fox hunts for hundreds of miles sometimes because I used to do it commercially, but for amateur radio operators, it's just a fun time. And clubs have these foxhot days, usually in the summer, but it could be in the winter.
Speaker A: Yeah, I'm out here over in Lincoln, and up the hill from me is the Auburn. I forget their group, but yeah, they sponsor quite a few fox hunts over the years, so I got little ones. So I never get to go out and play, but I get to hear them over the radio when they do it.
Speaker B: Awesome that you were maybe using a little bit of what you heard from those guys. There's a lot of tricks to it, to it, because if it's a transmitter and you get close to it, all of a sudden you can't tell what direction it's coming.
Speaker A: Very interesting. Yeah. I started out here by my radio and walked around and walked to where it started getting the wonkiest. And it pointed me right towards the tv and I said, TV couldn't do it, could it? Unplugged it and sure. Shoot. Came out here and everything's working great.
Speaker B: Yeah. And the crazy thing is that might not even have to be on to do that. A lot of times a lot of these microprocessors are running with crystals inside. And your TV is not even on.
Speaker A: Yeah, correct. My TV was off. It was off. And like I said, that was. That was the culprit. Now I got to figure out how to. I wonder if I could put tin foil behind it or how to shield it. It's very, very strange.
Speaker B: Well, that's really kind of sad that you have to deal with that because it just happens to be on 146, 115. We do have another repeater up on the hill. It doesn't have the local traffic, though. And that's where most of the interesting stuff happens on 36, you know, so we have another repeater called 6 up there. It's UHF, but yeah, no, you need to figure this out. It might take A directional antenna pointing right at the repeater so that the TV signals off to the side. But kind of doubt that's going to work. So that's going to be a tricky problem.
Speaker A: Well he said, now that I know the issue, it's not a big deal. Like I said, I was wondering if my radio was wrong, if something was going wrong with the repeater. But I hear other people talk, I just hadn't chimed in and yeah, so it was just like I said, that one, that one frequency was just constantly hissing at me. But once someone would key up or I'd key up it would be perfectly normal. But when it went back to slack it would just have that annoying hiss in the background.
Speaker B: Well, you might have to have a off switch like on one of those plug in AC bars, you know, they have their off switch and actually turn the unplug the TV off with one of those switches. But then anytime anybody's using it, all of a sudden you've got your interference back.
Speaker A: Yeah, I would never have guessed that television would be doing that but strange things.
Speaker B: Well, which TV is it? But by the way, I'm curious.
Speaker A: Yeah, it's a new Samsung, don't quote me. I think like S90 or something. It's a newer, better model Costco and we were all excited. It's a great tv but yeah, we had an older Sony in its place and that never did anything. But like you said, I guess it's running a different, different frequency.
Speaker B: A crystal either inside the microprocessor or attached to it depending on how they do it. Very interesting. That's too bad because Costco sells a lot of TVs and so other hands are going to, to have that Same problem on 146, 115 in Butte County. I bet.
Speaker A: Yes, oddest thing. But anyway, I just wanted to come back and say thank you. I appreciate your help and I learned something new today. So much appreciated.
Speaker B: Well, you're very welcome And I'm so happy that I was able to point you in the right direction and that it came. It worked out so. So have a good one and I'll be interested in if or if you're able to do anything about it. So you'll find me over here when I'm, when I'm not running the chainsaw which I've been running most of the day today. N6TRG
Speaker A: Kilo Oscar 6 Hotel Victor Sierra. Thanks again. Seven 3s.
Speaker B: 73 and kn6ftk@60rtu URL. We can't call Kilo November 6th. The Aralima. November. Because he said quartzite or. Well, yeah, he's in quartzite right now, so we can get him on fusion sometimes. All right. N6TRG.

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Speaker A: 86 PoC testing in Katadi on the 101. Ilo from KC6 POC Mobile. Hey buddy, how you doing? Good evening. They hear it's Adam and I'm on the way home. The wife asked me to stop and get her some Taco Bell and then I'm heading home. How are you doing?
Speaker B: I don't know if you were talking to me. I just gave you a combo check. You're sounding loud and clear into Las Vegas. K0QG, Kilo Zero Golf are Quebec. Golf, go ahead.
Speaker A: I was actually a farm. The cat I heard first was from near Livermore area. My dad used to work over there in the 90s when I was growing up. He was army reserved and go over there to Camp Parks. I remember him making the shuffle. He complained about it bitterly. Mostly cuz he wanted his weekends off. But that's where the job was, where you got to go. What's going on down there in Las Vegas? Hey, how warm is it right now out there where you guys are? Is it warm here? We had a great day up in Santa Rosa, like 55 or 60 degree sun.
Speaker B: Yeah, we had warm temperatures today up to about 68 for a high. Expecting low 70s for the next couple days. And right now it's 55. We're about maybe three miles from the Strip and on the floor. So 55 degrees, beautiful day, clear. And I just guess it's part of that California system that's blown in high high.
Speaker A: I was only in Vegas once and I think it was, I want to say in 99 or 2000 time ago. I actually had an ex girlfriend that I grew up with in Santa Rosa, her name was Jenna and she moved out there and she said, hey, you know what? You've never been out of Santa Rosa. Come and give this place a shot. I remember going up and down Margaret Drive.
Speaker C: But hey, you know, when you're 19
Speaker A: or 20, you really can't do much in Vegas. There's a couple restaurants we tried or you know, even going to the shows, you couldn't get in and we didn't want to push it so we did
Speaker C: that with the heck.
Speaker A: I remember her parents were trying to make a go at it and remember telling me that a lot of the utility companies were asking for deposits. Cuz some people come in, they blow all their cash, run up utility bills and they bounce. I remember her parents crying about that, you know, doing stuff.
Speaker C: Hey, it's moving.
Speaker A: Expensive. A B. They weren't ready for that either. They had them by the way, out of Santa Rosa. All right.
Speaker B: You're Adam. Yeah. You're going to Taco Bell. They're going to start offering horchatas. I don't know if they are in California, but they had some testing out here in this market in Las Vegas. Yeah. Mlk. A lot has changed. A lot. It's been, it's probably doubled inside their size. There's 10 million people out here. So it's gotten pretty big, but got more expensive. Kind of insane. I do real estate and the market has been really. It's turning into a buyer's market once again. But other than that, I'm sure you would be amazed at the difference.
Speaker A: Trying to remember if what I can recall, remember that was a quarter century ago. At the age 19. I don't like to do much and I didn't have a lot of money to spend either. I can't remember how I even got out there.
Speaker C: I think I flew, you know, I
Speaker A: said the airport express from Santa Rosa to SFO and flew. And I was out there with reserve for liquor company. She'd live with her parents on their couch. Cuz her mom was like, I don't know about this.
Speaker C: And I'm like, what was her name?
Speaker A: God. Like B or something like that. Now you're only dogging a memory. But I remember going to some restaurants. Remember I couldn't go in a casino. You couldn't see the Blue Man Group everywhere they served alcohol. You couldn't do much. The woman I ended up marrying helip with you and. And she was born out of her mind because it's an awkward age. All the little kid stuff is way too young for you. And you really can't do anything until you're 21 or can't get anywhere. So you're really just kind of wandering around most of the time. It sucks. But you know what though? That was so long ago. I vaguely remember a few things. So your real estate man. You know what? I. I have my license in California. I got mine in 2018 and that was to sell my sister's house for her so she would totally save on all the commissions. I think I might have had two listings in my life. I really just put my toe in the water in that dude.
Speaker B: Yeah, I think I, I Adam, I believe I, I believe I got your name right.
Speaker A: Yeah. It seems like 1 in 10 people
Speaker B: out here have a real estate license now because the market used to be good. I've been doing it 20 years and I'm older now. I'm 67, so I need to retire and sit back and enjoy my radio. I'm on a Connect Systems CS750DMR and I just cut an antenna. I had a long dual band straight metal whip. That's one of those slinky kind that you could. You could form in a circle. I cut it down to six and a half inches and that's what I'm on now.
Speaker C: I'm gonna get back to it.
Speaker B: Adam, it's been a pleasure talking to you. I think you brought the link up. I've. I've not gone that far. Research on how to bring up your sound of good from. I think it's at lift Liverpool.
Speaker A: 73.
Speaker C: 73.
Speaker B: I think I timed this thing out for the first time.
Speaker A: 73A K0QG Las Vegas. Trace the beach if I want any time. I could always use the company on the commute home. K0rqg from kd6poc mobile. Adam severosov.
Speaker B: Hi. Just for clarification, it's Kilo Zero Quebec Golf.
Speaker A: K0QG only. Only.
Speaker B: Only four items there
Speaker C: you got to
Speaker B: consistently write about three times. It's Kilowatt Zero Quebec Golf. Talk to you soon. 73. Bye bye.
Speaker A: The repeater stepped on you, buddy. One of the things I think they can do better with this system is to have it talk less. Yes, we know it's up. It's okay. Just pass the traffic. This is Adam over here to be a lot of bacon on the stove right now. There's a lot of bacon on the stove. Are you talking about the popping sound you hear in the audio for a minute? Here's some of that. You hear it on me, I can hear on yours. Definitely hear on yours.
Speaker C: 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. Yeah, station there on system 10. You copy?
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker C: Look, you need to wait for the courtesy tones before you key up your. Quit keying and keying up before other people are unkeyed. So you get lost there in the next. People aren't hearing what you're saying or you're doubling with them. So wait for the courtesy tone, give it a second or two after you hear the beep, and then key up and talk. Okay, Thank you. Okay. And when you do key up, also give it a couple seconds before you start talking so that you don't chop off the first word or two because you got lots of links and delays to overcome to get through the system. So that should help you with your future conversations. And Adam, thanks for the notation on thanks. Talking too much. We'll take that under advisement and 6 MBT.
Speaker A: I do recognize your voice. N6MPT from TD6GOC. I'm over here in Santa Rosa going down to Taco Bell. Get your wife out to eat on the way home. That's just something I would do. I have four comp sites in Sonoma county and I do a lot of work for a lot of other faults. You know, I just threw a proposal at Montara Ridge down here in San Mateo county. Hopefully. Bravo. Let's do it. One of the things that I have learned is that I try to keep the air clean. So I just. The ones that I set up when your scene is just here in the traffic. I think this is a wonderful system and if you guys are looking for donors, I'd love to send you a check. I had no problem doing then. I do that to all the other hand props, especially if I eat their stuff. The only change I would make is, you know, I don't. You don't need that many announcements when something's up or down to shoot the grass through.
Speaker C: Okay, well, thanks for your input. We always wanted to know where somebody's keying up from in the system. There's so many different repeaters. So it's an initial message upon the first key up from that system and then this way we know who's coming in from where. Usually what I tell people is to chunk the machine once, let it send its message out and then key up and start talking.
Speaker A: And that's where you don't have to compete with it.
Speaker C: But you know, different strokes for different folks. Anyhow, enjoying Taco Bell, they just closed down the one here in Lafayette after, I don't know, 50 years or something.
Speaker A: It was one of the last ones
Speaker C: that was a mission style looking building, so. Oh, well, see what, what takes its.
Speaker A: You know, I was in. I don't know if I told you about this one, but I had to go so job in Pacifica and I kid you not, I was bored. They have a Taco Bell on the beach in Pacifica. Like on the beach on the beach where there's a Trek deck behind it with some gears. They got bastards outside that are really shade and they have the cantina in the Taco Bell on the floor. They have a liquor license. You can go get yourself some chalupas and then literally walk inside, get yourself a margarita and go outside and then drink it. I was like, whoa, dude, that is nuts. But they said, yeah, that's actually a pretty big deal. I've seen it on the Internet before. But I went in there. Real life. I was friends.
Speaker C: Yep, I do remember seeing that. So definitely something for the history books. Right? All right, I'm gonna get back to it here. But the other station there was basically doubling with you and keying up before you were unkeyed. So I wanted to kind of put a kibosh on that. I think there were stove station somewhere that originally got back to somewhere out in Livermore maybe. Not sure if they're still there or not. Anyhow. All right, have a good night. We'll talk to you later at 6. MVP.
Speaker A: MVP.
Speaker C: Yep, go ahead.
Speaker A: Just wanted to say thank you for the clarification. I love your system.
Speaker C: Have you hear my notes on my.
Speaker A: On my radio, Rod, the one that created Carla. Tom,
Speaker C: really nice talking to you again in a while. Okay, Yep, I recognize the call sign there. So, yeah, you gotta. You gotta remember to slow down on there. And you know, not every system's the same, but on this one it definitely makes a difference. But good hearing you again. All right, have a good evening. Talk to you later. N6,7BT.
Speaker A: That's a good thing to do.
Speaker C: Thank you for creating. All right, I gotta chime in here and say hello. Hey, Tom, not sure if you are
Speaker A: following those emails, but that minicom thing worked out.
Speaker C: Jeff got that working. Well, hello, Canon Columbia. I did see some of that, so that's good news. And so one less thing to have to worry about. I'm trying to button up as many loose ends as I can, my end here collectively so that when we go down there, we're as prepared as you can be. Because, you know, as you know, it's a long trip, a long trip trip. So less gotchas and problems. Things we can do advance and be proactive about it the better.
Speaker A: So.
Speaker C: And excuse me, what time is it over here, by the way? Go ahead.
Speaker A: It's 1:30, 1:30 in the morning. I'm still downstairs here. The couple of the animals were still outside, so they like to hang outside. Sometimes they like to be outside all night. So I just hang out down here in the. I call it the daybed, the day bed room. We got more rooms in the south than we need, so we got a deep bedroom here. I just leave the windows open and let the. Let the boys hang out outside all night long. If they have a problem, I'll hear them.
Speaker C: Okay, well, hey, you know, more than enough is better than not enough in my book. You can always fill the void with stuff and if nothing else, buy more radios. Right? Yeah, you're probably enjoying some nice summer temps over there. Although I did hear it was like, I want to say the 80s or something like that down in Southern Cali day. So I'm gonna have to pay attention before we go down next week and dress appropriately. But at least there's no rain on the horizon, so that's good. I was really worried about that. God forbid any snow up there, cuz that would really suck. But I don't think that's on the horizon so much less. Gotcha. All right, Ken, I'm going to jump out here, but talk to you and we'll stay in touch. All right, see you later. And 6k and e. Chanault, columbia. All right. At 6m zt in sprawling mafia, california, usa. See you. Bye. Is in Colombia. Could that be Columbia country,
Speaker A: California? Yes, sir. Home of juan valdez himself.

Speaker A: How you doing?
Speaker B: Well, thank you. I was born in Peru very, very a long, long time ago.
Speaker A: Well, many, many, many long
Speaker C: time ago. I was born in Southern Cal where I met my, my wife and she's from, she's from Colombia. So we decided to retire down here. That's what we did a little over a year ago. And I love every minute of it.
Speaker B: Other than playing Juan Valley.
Speaker A: Yeah. Name here is
Speaker C: ken. I am
Speaker B: November 6th kilo, November echo.
Speaker A: I'm coming
Speaker C: in using all star. The carva system. Incorporated All Star a couple years back. So yeah, that's what we're doing here, using All Star. Tom is in the middle of getting some, some more repeaters connected together using using the All Star network. And that's how I'm coming in. Coming in directly through Alphenar.
Speaker B: That's wonderful, Ken. I wonder what that All Star node would be because I have an All Star machine here myself, a friend of mine in Hawaii all the time and we were supposed to be.
Speaker C: Yeah, it's good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah. If you want to use any of your All Star stuff here on the Carlos system, just send Tom an email and I'm sure we'll open up the hub there for you. Right now we're using a light roof just to keep out the riff raft, but yeah, you're using All Stars. Just shoot Tom an email and with your node number and I'm sure he'll put you on the list. Okay, I gotta go and good talking to you. Take care. N6 kne here.
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Speaker A: System32 link up. Good morning, ralph. Hey, good morning. Man, you are really, really noisy. Hard to. Hard to pick out of the weeds for some reason.
Speaker B: Least that's what I guess.
Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. Solved the problem. How you doing?
Speaker B: I'm doing. I got another friend over here, Mike. He's gone his way down to Santa Clara. Good work. I usually talk back and forth to work. You want to say hi to Mike? His call sign is WP6. WSC.
Speaker A: WP6. Waiting for Christmas. Waiting for Christmas. Good morning to the other mice. Yeah, it's a nice day here in Vegas. Very clear. It's a little chilly. The temperature is probably in the mid-50s or so, but it's going to be a good day.
Speaker C: Anyways. He's probably in the quote unquote, scratchy
Speaker B: zone.
Speaker C: He's in
Speaker B: the scratchy zone. He doesn't tee up. He's just telling me he was down by the radar dish. Down by Stanford.
Speaker A: 37 degrees. Oh, man. Okay, I'll let you guys get to it. Thanks for the shout. Making my way into the salt mines. My. My mom ended up getting in the hospital yesterday, so I'm gonna go visit her later, see what's going on there. She's got. Having some issues. That's what happens when you get into your upper 80s, so so be it. All right, man. Take care. Thanks for the shop then. 17.
Speaker B: All right. I hope she feels better and whatnot. Have a good day.
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Speaker B: Good morning. M6g.r g. This is k i6u. J x.
Speaker A: Yeah. Ki6u j, x n6grg Mike here in. Not too far from ready. Go ahead.
Speaker B: Been the last two days on the road down to Modesto. I'm back now getting car parts. So I am happy everything's done. So get to rest. A lot of driving. Modesto isn't closed, and there's a lot of construction on the way down on 99. As you know, Modesto's not on 5. So what have you been doing the last 48 hours that I've been gone?
Speaker A: Well, I have. I have been down there. Merced, Modesto area now way down there. I went to Yosemite, so I went kind of close. It's not too close to Modesto, but you go right through Merced anyway. Yeah, it up here, it's beautiful weather.
Speaker B: So I'm.
Speaker A: I'm, you know, preparing wood for my wood stove. And part of it was helping an older lady, a lady that. A little bit older than me, 78, helping her with wood that she needed to get out of there. So I had to deal with all that. And it wasn't perfect. Perfect firewood, so. But I'm dealing with it anyway. And so what were you. You were getting car parts in Modesto? What. Why would you go all the way
Speaker B: to Modesto for car parts? Go ahead. I got two doors, and the reason for going down there, they were. They were available in Rockland, and they picked and pulled, but they weren't the right color. So I wanted to match the color with the car. And to get those, I had to go all the way to Modesto because although Stockton and Tolida and what's the word? Antelope had the doors, they were all different colors. Red, white, silver. Needed gold, and I got it. So did you repair the FT89?
Speaker A: The FT8900R should be working now, but I'm. I've temporarily misplaced one part, and I just got to find that and plug it in and then I'll be able to test it. But I believe it should be working now.
Speaker B: I have found Cat 6 in the Walmart parking lot. Only one wire goes through. But yesterday while I was gone, I got a tester that sends a signal down a wire so you can find out where a break is. So on the Cat 6, apparently of the A wires on these oil she 7 are open and only one is connected. So I'm going to see if I can save this. Approximately 40ft of Cat 6. So I can move my rig to a different room, as you have yours in a different building, and then have the control head where I want it in the shaft.
Speaker A: Well, that'd be a pretty nice tester, Especially if it uses the catch six connectors on the ends and, you know, probably plugged in on one end and then on the other end you have some other devices.
Speaker B: Well, the reason for moving the. The rig too, number one, is the antenna has to stay, I think, within 17ft of it. And the. There's a better location, I think, for the antenna. So I'm still explaining. It seems like it works real well where it is now, next to the roof. I don't get that. But anyway. And here's the funny thing. I was listening to a Modesto station that I used to check into While I was commuting to sac state when I worked there. Break. Oh, yeah. Okay. What was I going to tell you? Oh, yes. I can go further south and west if the antennas in the other location. But then I lose Chico. I think I get scratchy with stoning fork and I always forget that name.
Speaker A: Oh, okay.
Speaker B: The. This.
Speaker A: This system that is currently down. It uses a piece of. It's about. Almost 2 inches in diameter cable
Speaker B: and
Speaker A: it's a hard line and it goes up about 80ft and then it goes to a co linear way up there. That's a 17 foot antenna. So that was an especially good system that the 8900 was connected to.
Speaker B: And
Speaker A: I really liked it when the 8900 was right at the end of that really huge cable that really made a huge difference. So that gave me signals all the way up to Mount Shasta and north almost to Weed, California and south all over the place. Down south, not quite to Vacca. I guess I'm too far to the west. There's too many mountains in the way between me and Vaca. To reach Vaca, go ahead.
Speaker B: Yes. I need to reach Becca and Mount Diablo. I was going to ask you if you reach Mount Diablo. That can hit. I forget how many counties the forget what the call sign pow I think is. I believe it starts with the W. Maybe it's W6 pow.
Speaker A: But the suffix is pow. Can you hit Mount Diablo? No, negative. I would be way too far west to reach Mount Diablo Because I would be going through, right through all the mountain ranges, including having to go right through the mountain that this repeater is
Speaker B: on
Speaker A: and snow mountain and all the different mountains. So there's no way I can repeat make it to the Mount Diablo, which is lower than all these other mountains. You have to be east on the east side of the valley at a minimum. Or like there's one fellow that's not here right now. He lived in a place called.
Speaker B: Called
Speaker A: Mineral. And if you look up Mineral. Mineral is at 5,000ft and it's definitely on the east side a little bit south of me. And I can talk to him direct from here because he's so high in the mountains and everything. But he can reach Diablo from that location. He has trouble with St. John for some reason, but he can reach Diablo.
Speaker B: That's sln. Is he hitting Stonyford?
Speaker A: Yes, he is. Yeah.
Speaker B: The reason I need to hit Diablo and Mount Vaca is there's a couple on Diablo, there's Mount Diablo Amateur Radio Club, and there's another one that's independent. I monitor those, you know, in case of earthquake on the Hayward fault, which you're expecting to be the next one that goes. However, there are swarms on the San Ramon fault. So I guess the USGS is not predicting very well.
Speaker A: Predicting weather is actually harder than predicting lightning. I mean, predicting earthquakes is actually harder than predicting lightning. It's. They're trying to perfect the science but having a tough time. I get warnings of. We had some. Some earthquakes in Susanville, and I got two warnings on my phone way over here in Reading from that Susanville earthquake, which was about a five, a little bit lower. They finally upgraded to it being tiny bit lower than 5. And then I get warnings from Eureka, which is earthquake central. As you know, Humboldt county is earthquake central with a big fault just off the coast. And they get lots of. I lived there for years. They. We got some amazing earthquakes there.
Speaker B: Okay. These earthquakes, I mean, the warnings, are they only about like 15 seconds before.
Speaker A: Yeah, very, very little warning time. And you would barely have time to reach up and grab a bookshelf or something like that if you. Or hop underneath a kitchen table or something.
Speaker B: Has SLN fixed his antenna problems? GRG said he was having a problem. Either the wind was blowing him down or the guy wires weren't tight enough or.
Speaker A: No, that's not his problem. His problem is that he has a mountain between him and Stonyford. He has a big mountain called Mineral Summit right in between him and Stonyford. So he has kind of a tough time when he's there. It changes for him, especially what he hears. I think he could have a little bit of. Of noise that is possible to have noise, digital noise interfere with VHF fm. It can. It can be a problem if you Have a weaker signal you're trying to pick up. And he does have a problem with Mineral summit in the way, but he generally takes the antennas down when he leaves. For right now he's in Quartzsite. And generally speaking, he'll head east from Quartzsite and go all the way to Oklahoma eventually.
Speaker B: Incidentally,
Speaker A: GR
Speaker B: no, not you. Steve said that Lakehead was only operating in 6 watts. They made a whirlwind tour on some of the repeaters up there that they fixed all of them and increased the power on Lakehead.
Speaker A: Negative. I was the one that took Lakehead from 0 watts to 6 watts. And the. The final output stage power amplifier has blown up on that repeater. So it was a special adjustment that was. Made it possible to get 6 watts out of it. And as far as I know, it's still putting out this watt. Nobody's been up here.
Speaker B: Tom was talking to somebody like two weeks ago, maybe further back, that somebody was driving around. I thought they went to like Valley and Bella Vista and were tuning or whatever, you know, tweaking, just for better lack of a better word. The repeaters, was there any appropriate. On one of them, the link didn't work. Remember the hub?
Speaker A: Well, the one that they did get working was Shasta Bali. And it doesn't work real well on the link, but direct to the repeater, that works fine. But the link,
Speaker B: There's.
Speaker A: There's a. A reason why they would have trouble with the link. Because it's an antenna that's not designed to be at a high elevation. It's more like a ham radio antenna, not a commercial antenna. So it's not designed to be up there. And
Speaker B: so it's put.
Speaker A: When I installed it, I had to use all sorts of strapping and that sort of thing to make it work at all. But they did get the repeater on the air and it can reach back on Link, but it's 159 mile link and everything has to be just right or that's not going to work real well.
Speaker B: Does our Sacramento fog have an effect on that? As it grounds the signal,
Speaker A: conditions do make a difference. And at times, even back when it. Before the original antenna was shorter but a lot stronger, it was a great antenna, but it was expensive, like 300 bucks. So when it, when it broke,
Speaker B: they
Speaker A: didn't want to spend $300, which, you
Speaker B: know, if you consider the fact that
Speaker A: that antenna lasted 10 or 15 years, I think it would have been the way to go. But they spent maybe a hundred dollars and the new engine Is, is twice as long and half as strong. So it's going to be a problem, always be a problem. And I would imagine it's bent up right now. There was a lot of ice on Bali that I can see it from here and I can look at it and see the ice. And right now the ice is melted, but it can have a lot of ice and snow on it.
Speaker B: What is the cost for the amplifier for Lakehead? They don't want to spend the money on that either.
Speaker A: Well, it's an MS.5, MSF5000 Motorola amplifier power amplifier. They call it a PA MSF5000PA and you'd have to get it used. When I talked to Tom, he said it would be a low priority. So I, I said, okay, it's a low priority. That means it's not going to get done very quickly if ever.
Speaker B: Is that ditto for the. Shasta dolly antenna low priority? Are getting a better one?
Speaker A: Well, the guy that purchased the hundred dollar antenna, he just didn't want to spend 300. And I would, you know, I would think that if anything was the priority, it would be having a good link. But see, what they want to do is put volley system 13 and system 20 on a thing called All Star. And the equipment is ready for that. The equipment has been designed and it's ready, but nobody's gone up there to do it. So until that happens, that system will not be linked very well. It is linked. It's just not very, not really a very clean link.
Speaker B: Doesn't six knee come in on All Star or is that some other like. I don't think it's dstar. But doesn't he use All Star?
Speaker A: Yeah, he's, he's the guy that's doing all the programming on All Star also. And yes, he's the guy coming in from Columbia
Speaker B: and apparently he's. Because he doesn't live in Fort Jones anymore, that club Skyra won't let him link that scarab to Carla.
Speaker A: Well, there were, I don't know what the reasons are for the changes up there, but some changes happened that had nothing to. He was still there when, when the changes happened. And he just went with the flow and said, okay, you won't be able to be connected to Carla anymore either they said they didn't want to be or I don't know what exactly happened there, but some changes happened. That's all I can say. He won't really talk about the real reasons why, you know, things happen. There were people there that said things like they didn't like the racket, you know.

Speaker A: Things like that. So it could have been something like that.
Speaker B: We sure don't have that problem with the Las Vegas Repeater Association. They're fine with staying connected. Anyway, we had another question for you. I'll ask it when I remember it.
Speaker A: Okay. Well, what sort of a station are you in?
Speaker B: I'm on rf, as you know, still running a. I think I purchased this 2009 FT8800R and it's every function of the work, including the one that I don't need anymore. That's the, what was it?
Speaker A: Wires.
Speaker B: I think they just called it wires back then. So sometimes I can put that on when I'm talking about Steve as a joke, and then he'll have to tell me to push the atomic symbol to shut it off.
Speaker A: The 8800 and 8900 radios were way ahead of their time as far as I'm concerned, especially the 8900 because it was capable of operating 10 meters, 2 meters UHF and 6 meters. That was very unusual back when I bought it in 2004.
Speaker B: Are you the one that told me that you don't have the hyper memories or do you have the six hyper memories like the AD 800?
Speaker A: Yeah, I've got hyper memories and I use them a lot. One button and I've got two,
Speaker B: two
Speaker A: frequencies, one on one side and one on the other that I, I like to, whatever I, I, you know, kind of customized it to, to hear. So I, I like it. I like it very much.
Speaker B: Well, I do too. And I'm sorry that they don't have it on subsequent radios like I think. But I can tell you I punched a button when I was in the San Joaquin Valley to pick up all the repeaters down there. Then when coming back, I think around Bodi, I punched the Sacramento Valley, but come back into this region. So yes, I love that feature.
Speaker A: Yeah, it can be very handy for traveling and that sort of thing. I would be surprised if, if those radios didn't have some sort of feature like that. They must have something like that. But Steve, you can jump in there if we're wrong, if I'm wrong. But I think it's a great feature and it's GRG here.
Speaker B: I was listening to somebody down there that had a radio. I could not get the brand because there's too much rag cherry because. But apparently it did FT8RF echo link, which you don't. So you wouldn't need your phone. What was irlp? Well, they all do irlp. And then there was something else that I'M missing Anyway, it did like everything that we use now except meshtastic and by the way there was somebody down there talking about mesh core so I asked Steve about it by text. He didn't know anything about it.
Speaker A: I think he's looking into it. That's the other form of mesh tactic and he has looked at it. He said a few things about it like it is capable of more hops and that sort of thing. I buy the lily gold. But I'm so rural here. That's why I've held off on doing all that because I'm so rural here. I just don't, don't think I'm gonna have much luck with meshtastic or, or any other form of it. Laura. I'm way too far away from everybody.
Speaker B: Do you have any packet capabilities?
Speaker A: I have run packet with the. I have a couple of radios that'll do it but I haven't done it for years. I used to do it with my 80 900. I, I had a rated way to do it. I just haven't done it in years.
Speaker B: Aprs something always comes up here and now I've got time. So I keep saying I'm going to get this done by the end of this week and that's like weeks ago and months ago. But I am just dang determined to get that sucker that cable going because it only has like eight components, like one optocoupler, one diode. I think there's. The rest are two capacitors and I think four resistors.
Speaker A: That's it. Oh really? Okay. You're having to build whatever this is. I have one radio I'm going to hook up. Its maximum power is 40 watts but I'm going to turn it down to like 20, 25 and I'll be back When I do that I'll have capability of FTA JSA call JSA calls the one I really like on hf. So I'll get all that going again. The radio I use do all that with the computer that I used for it.
Speaker B: There was.
Speaker A: Is there some sort of incompatible incompatibility situation or some sort of change that has made it so that that rate that computer won't work with JSA call at this point and there I heard of there's a lot of people having a problem with it and it's a software issue and one of them came up with a solution that was a little bit tough to implement. I think what they need to do is write another driver for it that does what he said and then Everything will be fine.
Speaker B: Do you know anything about Dire Wolf? Because the only packet I've done was
Speaker A: AG
Speaker B: something PE AGWPE and I would like to use. They say Dire Wolf is more robust.
Speaker A: Well, that'll be a Linux program. Do you use Linux? Do you know how to use Linux?
Speaker B: No, but I have a computer that I could easily got Windows 10 since that top was obsolete. I think October 16th I could certainly switch that to Linux, no problem. I mean, I don't know how, but I am willing to learn and do it.
Speaker A: Well, you'll probably need to get a little help, but it'll be a type of package. They'll have to program a package package. So then you'll turn Linux on and be able to get to these programs and it'll have like a menu on the screen to make it. Otherwise it's just too hard to run Linux without some menu help. But if you get the right package, it'll. It'll do all that for you.
Speaker B: By the way, you may have had this incompatibility problem. When I upgraded one of the Macs, I lost the package capabilities with the AGW PC and I purchased it. Don't upgrade. And I've other problems with the word processor and the spreadsheet. So I had to pay 100 bucks to get it knocked back down to the. It's not the original. He couldn't do that with a lower iOS. And I'm hoping that the other things work. I have not reloaded them or tested that yet.
Speaker A: Well, with this, this computer that made it, you know, that all of a sudden wouldn't run JS8 call anymore. What that computer did was it upgraded from Windows 10 to a Windows 11. And when it upgraded to Windows 11, most everything worked except for JSA call and FDA and FLDizzy, you know, all the, all the HF digital stuff, all of a sudden it was gone. And the only thing I can get to work on FFT Digi, which is just another digital HF digital program that works with my, my big HF radio. The only thing that it does now is the keys, but all the audio parts of it are not working and it's an audio problem with the drivers. So yeah, upgrade can be a problem. And that's what got me with Windows. And Steve just says we'll go with Linux. And there's a little bit of a challenge learning how to operate with Linux. But once you get to that point, for the most part you don't have to worry about upgrades and, you know, being loaded. You don't have to have any upgrades
Speaker B: if you don't want them. Incidentally, are any of the CARLA repeaters operating on Linux? Some of the other repeaters use Linux that are not Carla.
Speaker A: Well, the All Star network, the connection via the Internet that some of these repeaters use like the Las Vegas and all the repeaters in the Reno and Nevada area and Tahoe and San Jose and eventually system 31 will be all Star. All those use All Star and All Star. You know, Ken doesn't talk about it because he doesn't really know too much about Linux But All Star is a. The All Star operating system is Linux and so it's always running in the background.
Speaker B: Incidentally, is dstar becoming obsolete?
Speaker A: I would say no. From what I know of it, I have it here. But you know, if you don't have a De Star repeater in your area then you might think that. Right. Those who have dstar repeaters in their areas, I don't believe they feel that it's becoming obsolete. I've never had a dstar repeater available to me though.
Speaker B: Yeah, I noticed when I left the Bay Area where they did have have vstar repeaters all over the place. It's like I move up here and it's like almost. Not totally but almost non existent.
Speaker A: Well, I would say that fusion is a lot more popular. I think I could get away with saying that.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's why I was asking. I guess they're going to everything once they put it in in the Bay Area doesn't seem to leave. They keep it and you just have all these different modes but up here I was wondering whether they let them go or they just never got installed.
Speaker A: Well, the two digital modes in vhf, UHF that we need to probably talk about that are up here is DMR and Fusion and DMR and Fusion are still being used up here and whether you say one is more popular than the other, well they're just different. Fusion does I. I think you could say it does less. It is. Most of the fusion and repeaters are capable of being connected to with a hot. With a desktop Internet some of them, some people call them a hotspot or a node or something like that. Most of most of the fusion repeaters are capable of being connected to via that and that's how Sierra Lima November connected to it from Quartzite. He would connect to the Jefferson Jefferson State repeater up in the reading area via his little node hotspot kind of a thing, Internet thing and DMR is all also done that way so but what that requires is that the repeater have access to Internet and as a mountaintop that can be a problem.
Speaker B: Yes. Now do GARS or JIRA have GARS or Gears have either of those repeaters?
Speaker A: Gears have some use in repeaters. I don't think Gears has any DMR repeaters but some of the people who are involved with gears help people who have GMR repeaters that aren't involved with gears. And so there's some at what you call the Stonyford repeater, there's some DMR and I don't, I don't know if there's any fusion up there, but there's DMR for sure. Okay, Steve, Steve can jump in and, and let us know if there's any fusion up there. But I know there's DMR up there.
Speaker B: I believe he's mentioned that months ago. I just didn't remember because I don't have that capability. So not something I needed to remember.
Speaker A: Right. Well, do you run fusion?
Speaker B: No. You run that out of your computer?
Speaker A: No. Generally speaking it comes out of a YAESU radio, a newer YAESU radio like Steve's 403 hundreds and all the newer aces. And I run it. I run it out of a ft5dr. Portable.
Speaker B: I am not familiar with the Steve's radio capability. I think it is mobile and I don't know about the FT5. Is that. Yeah, you just said it was mobile. Know nothing about that rig.
Speaker A: Well, Steve has Fusion regular radio like we're on right now and APRs. Are you familiar with APRs much?
Speaker B: Not anymore. I used APRs on the ST8800 I don't know, 15 years ago but since I lost the packet capability when I took the cable apart to improve it, I haven't used APR since and I hope I can remember. And since then I understand that Bob Gruniga has become an SK.
Speaker A: Oh, okay. Well there's other ways you can get APRs on that 8800. The one I was recommend is called Digirig and you can buy cables that are made for the 8800 from the guy that has that Digirig company. And I have one digi rig here now but I'm going to run it on an HF radio. That's the plan. And I've got this 200 watt Kenwood that I'd like to set up. It was given to me and it looks like a beautiful radio. I like to make it work but I was told it didn't transmit So I have, I haven't plugged it in yet to find out if that's true, but yeah, I could, I could probably even set up the Digi rig for the, the ICOM that has the computer and I think it'll. Yeah, it's capable of using JSA call, so it would be a whole other way to get all that stuff working again. But I've got another way to do it. It's this radio I purchased from India called the S Vidx and it has FTA and a whole lot of stuff in it already. It runs with a Linux computer and you know, there's so many things to do right now. What I'm basically doing I in the daytime and I'm about ready to go out and do it right now is I'm cutting wood. I. I burn wood here and I'm cutting wood, a lot of wood right now. Taking advantage of all these sunny days.
Speaker B: Would you send me kindly his contact information on that table? And I still don't. I just had. I remembered that question I was going to ask you, but got it again. But anyway, I'd like his contact information, please.
Speaker A: Okay. Could I get your call again? Let me see if I've got everything I need.
Speaker B: K i6u j x@icloud.com
Speaker A: okay. Ki6ujs@icloud. I didn't know they had an internal email service at iCloud. That's interesting. I have an iPhone now, so they want me to purchase space.

Speaker A: On icloud and boy, I avoid that. That sort of thing. They try to tell me I don't have enough space to back up my iPhone. And you know, whether that's really true or not, I mean, I, I check, I go direct and check at icloud and I have a ton of space there, see. So I don't know what to think about icloud. It's another one of those services that now I do know that my Google account, I've used up everything there. So. But icloud, it says I have a ton of space.
Speaker B: They have two levels. They've been pushing me and I am near the end of one of the free stuff. They have a 99 cents a month and they have a $2.99 a month storage for. It's in the gigabytes but I don't need that kind of storage anymore but might in the future. So it's good to know about it.
Speaker A: But do you still use the email@ki6ujx a l a r c.org do you still use that?
Speaker B: As long as I stay a member of the sun of the American Legion, I can use that call sign. However, if I left, they wouldn't know that I left, so I would have it indefinitely anyway, I suspect.
Speaker A: Okay, well, you might add that iCloud one into your. What do they call it? Your biography? Just put it right at the top. My alternate email is@kicujxicloud.com and then we can get to you no matter what. But I'm looking at your QRT page right now.
Speaker B: I believe I have included it or used it to replace the icloud address since it forwards to that anyway.
Speaker A: Okay, well, it's not listed, so but if it boards to, it doesn't really matter. You've got it covered.
Speaker B: Yes, I also have another one I don't use which I was planning to use for business if I ever start a business. It was kic ujx.net
Speaker A: oh, okay. Well, that's another one yet. But having a whole lot of different emails isn't always a good thing. So I think you've got it covered right now because if I send one to Kel Art, it'll make it to icloud and get to you, so that's all that matters. Yes.
Speaker B: And the ATT one I still check. I get spam on it, but it works. And I do check it and it's all connected to. I use Apple Mail, so they're all there.
Speaker A: Well, I've used Gmail forever. And you can what my email is at QRZ has been the same email forever and I don't erase anything. So it's kind of like a history of my life.
Speaker B: I now remember the question I was going to ask you. What is Superman? Does Superman monitor irlp, Echo Link
Speaker A: and
Speaker B: RF at the same time?
Speaker A: As far as I know, Supermon is
Speaker B: primarily for
Speaker A: the All Star system. I don't know if it uses, if it works with other digital systems. I do know it works with All Star.
Speaker B: Well, apparently there is some software that connects W6ek and they're 145.430 and they're in Auburn. They have three voters connected to that. They also have All Star. Well, they have, I think all the boats and everything keeps crashing and the entire repeater goes off the air for like a day or two, day and a half now their voters are down and so they have to, they're going to have them up by this afternoon. But it's just, I think they have too many things connected or not enough geeks to, you know, coordinate them so that they stay on the air without issue.
Speaker A: What was the call letter again for that?
Speaker B: W6E as in Edward, K as in Kilo. Okay.
Speaker A: I'm looking at W6ek to see if they talk about any of this. It sounds like if they're using Supermon that they're also tied into All Star. Typically, that's what All Star is all about. Yeah. And I go down the page and look at the club repeaters and they mention All Star. They've got an All Star node. So that's what they're doing. They're using Supermon to look at their All Star system and find out whether it's working or not.
Speaker B: And it apparently goes down frequently. I'm not sure why the other. What is West Mountain's Rig Blaster?
Speaker A: Well, that's a whole other topic. Was there somebody else trying to get in? Okay. Rig Blaster. Rig Blaster is a lot like that other system I mentioned it. Basically it's a way to. Generally speaking, it's been used to hook up HF radios to digital equipment. So generally speaking that's what it's for. But it's a way to do that. And I use, I have a Rig Blaster system here. And you know, it works once you, once you get these systems working, as long as you don't mess around too much, they're going to continue to work. The only. I would have the same problem with rig bluster that I have with the sound card that's in my icon because I think Reek Blaster would want to use the sound cards in my icon. So, you know, it's just another digital way to hook up hf. And I don't, I don't know for sure if it'll work with APRS or VHF digital or not, but it's another, another hardware piece of hardware.
Speaker B: Used it with the FT8800R on 6 meters or 10 meters.
Speaker A: Right. And it will work with HF radios. Like I said, I don't know how whether it works with VHF FM or not, but it works with HF for sure. And it's a way to connect, to do some of the work that you need to do to connect digital signals to a radio from a computer.
Speaker B: Have you used it on 6 meters or 10 meters on the FT8900R?
Speaker A: Negative. I have not used it with anything but HF radio.
Speaker B: Would it work on 6 meters or 10 meters on that rig?
Speaker A: I don't know for sure, but I would say there's a good chance.
Speaker B: I'm. I joined a club here that they only have rf. And I brought up the situation or the question of the meeting whether they were going to add Echo Link or IRLP All Star and they said no, the repeater trustee wants to leave it just as an RF machine kind of stuck in the bud here.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's pretty common, you know, and one of the reasons maybe if it's a mountaintop system, that they don't want to spend the money, money to
Speaker B: get
Speaker A: Internet up to that mountain.
Speaker B: There is, it's on one of the highest Sutter Butte peaks. There are commercial transmitters up there. So I assume they have Internet. They certainly have power from BG&E. I don't know about Internet though.
Speaker A: And even if they did have commercial stuff up there, those commercial people would have to allow them to use their Internet and that quite often isn't allowed. So yeah, they'd have to have their own Internet. The, the Internet at Stonyford was, you know, done by some people who wanted to spend the money. And it's pretty unusual for a 7,000 foot mountain to have Internet like that. So it's quite unusual.
Speaker B: Well, I was in a club in Marin in Nevada specifically that the location was, did not have Internet. So another location miles away was sending an RF. I don't know whether it was on 70cm or microwave. Never did find out, but I know it was wireless.
Speaker A: Typically the only way that Carla has Internet on the mountains is with a thing called a hotspot it's just an inexpensive hotspot. That's how they do it. And typically you have to have a cell signal available at that mountaintop for a hot spot to work. And that's a lot of the problem. There's a system called System 20 up here in Bernie that has had in the past Internet available there. I think one of the reasons why that Internet went away to the hotspot. It went away. That's one. One of the reasons why there was a big storm and it went away. A lot of changes happened when that big storm happened.
Speaker B: I thought Bernie only had solar too. I thought it had like,
Speaker A: Nope, Bernie's got AC power and it did have a problem. It would, it. It's got this big huge wind farm up there and they would put 400 watts into 400 volts, I mean into the 110 volt system and blow everything up. And I finally got the rising piece of equipment that could handle that and up there. And it's ran ever since. But then the Internet went down. And when the Internet went down, it required a link and the link worked until Bally went down. When Bali went down, then that whole system went down.
Speaker B: Is that ever going to be corrected?
Speaker A: Well, it is corrected right now. It's, it's not perfect, but it is corrected. Is KN6MCK around there? See the one that's keying up occasionally? I guess not. So, yeah, Bali, that's the part of the problem with Bali was the antenna and some other things that happened up there that I felt could be corrected by changing the repeater, which they didn't agree with me. So they went with the original, original system. And who knows, it could go down again just like it did before. If the people that own that building start messing around with their generator, it could go down again. But anyway, yeah, that's, that's Bali. Bali's the linking system. Right now if they change everything, then the linking will go through Bernie. And if that starts working, then as long as that linking system is through Bernie and All Star is working, that system will work a lot and it won't happen. Have the problems that it. Well, I think Bali could still have the problems that it's had in the past come up again. But if it did, then 20 would still be working, which would be good for us up in the north area here. Because when Bali goes down, if there's no link from Bernie, then we're dead in the water. Except unless you have access to 36 like I do.
Speaker B: Yeah, I think Steve mentioned Just what you said. Yeah, that it was just a standalone repeater. If that went down.
Speaker A: Yeah, when, when 20s Internet linking goes down through all stars and if one not working, everything's gone. And ball E has been very, very tentative. It messes up when it starts messing up. What it does is it wrecks the programming in brand new Motorola gear. And that's the problem.
Speaker B: What is the fuel the generator uses and can that problem be solved remotely or do you have to go to the site?
Speaker A: Well, they have to go to the site and it uses diesel and it's Generac, a big, big brand new Generac that's never ran correctly ever since it was first installed. It's never worked. And they'll go up and try to repair it and make it work and then it'll fail again. And that's just the way it's been ever since day one. And so, and part, you know, there was a big fire up there and they replaced the whole building and when they replaced the building they added some stuff, put some stuff in there that connected to the generator and was part of the problem that would have caused problems for us also and wreck our repeaters. So if that stuff is still connected incorrectly, it's going to happen again someday. But so far they, well, this winter they haven't tried to make anything, make any changes. And that one guy just went up there and I think he was sent some re. Some, some replacement Motorolas and he hooked them up and they. And that's why the repeater works I think, but I'm not sure.
Speaker B: The site of the club where I was in, in Nevada Also they had 150 foot tower that's at the former Hamilton Air Force Base that it was used commercially and by the club T Mobile used it. They had a building there. I think it was one of those containers, you know, freight containers. And they had a generac there. And 15, about 15 years ago there was a power outage and the generator was supposed to come on automatically. When it did, when it did, it had an aluminum flywheel and it stripped the teeth and so it didn't work. Now they replaced it with a cast iron flywheel. Well, the next time they had a blackout there, the cast iron flywheel cracked. I don't know whether it came from China or what the deal is, but I think these generacs are overrated. I don't think they're as great as these people think.
Speaker A: Well, this generator up on Bali is beautiful looking, but it's never worked right. And I, I had an opinion that Perhaps one of the reasons why it never worked right, in addition to the other equipment it was connected to, that was another problem. But the reason the engine didn't work right, I think, was that when you take a generator that's meant to work at low elevation up to a 6 or 7,000 foot mountain, you should put the high elevation carburetor modification in it. And if you don't do that, it will be too rich. And that's exactly what it was. It was way too rich. And it would smoke like crazy when it was start up. If it was start up, it would smoke like crazy and run for a little bit and die. So I remember that being a problem with that generator. And I don't think, I doubt that it was ever, ever, you know, taken care of.
Speaker B: The other problem, what was the equipment connected to that generation between that generator and the Carla stuff?
Speaker A: It was this switching box, they have a name for it, a special kind of switch box that disconnects the AC connection and connects the generator connection. And it was causing all kinds of problems. It was switching on and off and on and off and on and off and caused the repeater to totally mess up. The Motorola.

Speaker A: Repeaters to totally mess up.
Speaker B: Would that be a transfer switch?
Speaker A: Yes, that's the technical name for a transfer switch. And it was not hooked up correctly. I don't know who they have doing the electrical, but they did not connect that transfer switch up correctly and hadn't. Didn't connect it up correctly for many, many years. And I don't know if it's ever been taken care of.
Speaker B: I'm not sure. I'm not there anymore. That the Generac generator at the T Mobile, that's a hub, by the way, for all of North Bay, that affects Marin County, Sonoma County, Napa county and Solano County. You know, it's like you were saying, that one has never worked right. And it's essentially at sea level.
Speaker A: Well, if they're not connected correctly, regardless of whether the generator is working correctly or not, if the transfer switching isn't correct, correctly connected and wired, it doesn't matter. It's going to mess everything up. And that's what happened at Bali for many, many years. And so every year the repeater system would not work. And we're not supposed to work on the transfer switch. We're not supposed to work on the generator. That's the building owner's problem. So it, you know, until. Until I don't know if it's. If it's correct now or not. I don't know. I have a feeling they just shut the generator down altogether. And when the power goes out, it goes out.
Speaker B: Well, in the Nevado case, they never mentioned the transfer switch as being the problem. They always mentioned the Generac as being the.
Speaker A: Well, the Volley system had both problems. It had the transfer switch problem and it had a generator problem.
Speaker B: Did it go down when we had this last big storm so that you would know that they removed the generator?
Speaker A: Well, the generator didn't start and the power went out.
Speaker B: Out.
Speaker A: And it acted like a typical repeater where it just went on battery. And that's what it's supposed to do. And now a system that, a car system that has a generator, what you'll hear if it's working correctly is it will go on battery and then not long after it will come back on ac. And that's the typical Carlo repeater that has a working generator and transfer switch. That's what they do. And you might just have a quick message. It'll be on battery for just a second, then all of a sudden it'll be back on ac. Well, with Bally it would go on on battery, and then all of a sudden you'd hear the on battery message all night long. You'd hear it over and over and over that it was on battery, on battery, on battery. So what was was happening was that transfer switch was switching the switching back and forth and back and forth. It would switch over to generator and there'd be no power there, you know, so it was switched back and it was wired incorrectly. So it would do that over and over and over, switching the power on and off to the repeater. Well those, those Motorolas can't handle that.
Speaker B: Well, I turned the on battery off battery single times on different repeaters and I was assuming Tom or someone else was or like yourself was testing them.
Speaker A: Oh, like System eight is notorious for having AC go out and going on battery. And that is supposed, that's doing working exactly like it's supposed to. It does not have a generator in the building probably. So it goes on on battery and stays on battery until the AC is repaired by the power company.
Speaker B: Where's 8 located?
Speaker A: It's one of the Tahoe repeaters 8 and 18.
Speaker B: Whoever came up to Valley and up, you know, in your area, I think they went the next day over to Tahoe to I guess checked on those repeaters.
Speaker A: I don't think so. Those guys, I think I know who that is and they were primarily a ball, a company that handles Bali. And I think they might have wanted them to go to 13 and go to 20, but I don't know that they were ever able to go there. And I don't think they really had to go there other than that low power situation at 13. I don't think they needed to go there. That's just those systems have been working fine.
Speaker B: You say low power was bad as Lake had it at 6 watts.
Speaker A: That's the one I'm talking about, 6 watts. That by the way, when I, when I was able to get that from 0 watts to 6 watts, I was able to test it from way up north by Mount Shasta and it worked. So. So I was really amazed that it worked.
Speaker B: Yes. The cardless system scarce in Southern California. I don't see that many repeaters down there, but maybe they cover the wide area.
Speaker A: Do you ever go to carlaradio net on the line? Yes. So what are you saying? Okay, I'm not sure what the question was. The repeaters that are all over California would show to you when you go to Carla Radio net and they're all over California.
Speaker B: Are they like Santiago?
Speaker A: We have a system 31 on Santiago and if you, you go to Carla Radio C A, R, L, A, Charlie, Alpha, Romeo, Lima, Alpha, Radio, all one word, Dot, November, Echo, Tango. The first thing that comes up that it shows you is where all the repeaters are.
Speaker B: Yeah. So there's some blinking things on the left which are pretty much well defined. I want to say almost well defined on the top, but sometimes they have different colors and blinking away that they're not defined up on the top. The legend is full or complete to me.
Speaker A: Well, the blinking things and all that sort of thing are not really something you would try to rely on. They're. They're not reliable. They. They might tell you whether that repeater is working or not. They're not really important. The main thing that I was wanting you to look at is where the repeater are located. And it'll show that, and it'll show the frequency and it'll show the PL for local and like. Like with 36, it shows the PL we're on right now as local and it shows the link pl. Those are the primary things that are important to have access to when you go to carlaradio.net
Speaker B: yes. And also if you look, it'll show that Sierra is still connected or announcing that connection. And that's years old. That should be deleted.
Speaker A: Correct. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. That's not reliable, is the updates aren't really correct on some things.
Speaker B: Yeah, but you know, it's been that way for years.
Speaker A: Yes, sir. And that's. That's a whole different department with Carla and. Yeah.
Speaker B: Do they not have even annual meetings? You know, Tom and whoever, you know, the other owners are.
Speaker A: Well, it's not a club and they do communicate, but. Yeah, that's their ball game.
Speaker B: Well, it's better than what we have. I mean, there's also the wind system. I used to use that a lot in the Bay Area, but it had a lot of traffic. But it does not have the local link capability. When you're on the wind system, it's only linked.
Speaker A: Right. Yeah. And it's. It's. It's even more fractured because each person who owns that repeater is in charge of it with. When the Windlink system, where. With Carla, those three guys are in charge of it, so at least it doesn't have that problem.
Speaker B: Correct. And when somebody goes off the air, and it could be that that particular repeater owner had an issue with whoever Jeff or whoever JF Whoever is call signing views with a repeater system.
Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. WinLink is a collection of individual repeaters,
Speaker B: supposedly worldwide. There's just been a few countries so it's not like they're all over the place but. And I, I believe 4/5 of them are right here in California.
Speaker A: Yep, that's correct. It's always been pretty big in California, actually nationwide I would say. And I paid attention to it a while ago and then they had one in like Cottonwood or something and it went away. And when it went away, I just started paying attention to Carla and I've been more paying. I, I still pay attention to Carla. I just don't work on it anymore.
Speaker B: So I guess when the communication batteries go out on Stonyford, you will not be bringing them up anymore.
Speaker A: Well, I do not drive to the mountaintops anymore. I'm kind of like retired.
Speaker B: Steve said that's kind of a hellish road anyway getting up to Stonyford.
Speaker A: Well, it's got its. It's not the best road in the world, but compared to Bali, it's a piece of cake.
Speaker B: Didn't know Bali was an issue. But I've hiked on bad roads and I've seen like if we're in the water district somehow with their four wheel drive slip ons, those are the. A little bit bigger than a pickup truck. Fire trucks, I think they're called squads. They go up there whatever doing maintenance. But in cases of, you know, fire for campfires, it's a little bit out of control. That's why they have the firefighting capability. Not much, but better than nothing.
Speaker A: Well, you know, n6kn see my truck had a problem and I wasn't really taking it to the mountaintops and we needed to go up there. So I talked N6 knee to go up there and he thought that his Jeep was capable of doing everything. He thought it was a high power system. He thought that Jeep was amazing and he took it on Bali and he had his wife with him and I was in there and it scared the poop out of his wife. I mean Bali is. If you have a vehicle like Ken has an older Jeep, it scared the heck out of it. So Bali is a rough one.
Speaker B: Did that Jeep make it down to Columbia?
Speaker A: Yes, he. That was his plan. I haven't asked him if he actually did it, but it was his plan to take it to Columbia. That would have cost a fortune.
Speaker B: Hang on, I got a call. Phone call.
Speaker A: Hey, really great talking to you and I've got to get out and start cutting wood. So 73N6 GRT, Ki6ujx, n6grg. And Steve, if you're there, time to wake up. N6GRG. I'm getting out of here. I got to take my dog out. It's time for him to go out and I've got to get outside, start working on wood. N6GRG sorry. I'm going to take off.

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6. K6lnk system 36, snow mountain range.

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Speaker A: G3yfw connected
Speaker B: k6lnk system 36, snow mountain
Speaker A: range. G3yfw disconnected.

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Reading link up.

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Speaker A: Txt Doing a radio check on this space station. I have new antenna system 24 link up
Speaker B: K6LNK, system 36, Snow Mountain Range.
Speaker A: Loud and clear there. Radio check. Good signal, good audio. And I didn't know what tone frequency we were using to access this repeater, so I'm in Carson City. My name
Speaker C: is Corey AK7ZZT.
Speaker A: What tone are you using? Well, you're definitely on the lake. I don't know, but I can look real quick. I'm using the link 156.7.
Speaker C: So on all the power repeaters with the dual PL scheme, the higher of the two PLs is the link PL and you're definitely on the link because we're all able to communicate with different sources here. Copy that.
Speaker A: The 1:27.3 is the local. Excuse me. The 156.7 is the link.
Speaker C: And.
Speaker A: Hello,
Speaker C: tom. Okay, I'll be listening n6k in.

Speaker A: K9 kad monitoring. Anybody copy? K9k a d radio check. Anybody monitoring?
Speaker B: A9, question mark? This is anybody. Over. System seven, link.
Speaker A: Copy that, canine. Kilo alpha delta, shasta county. Where are you?
Speaker B: K9k a d. Whiskey baker 6, kilo hotel papa. This is dave. I'm in san jose on carla 7. Over.
Speaker A: Affirmative. San Jose. Lived and worked for decades before I escaped up to Shasta County. I just learned about the Carla repeaters late last night, and I programmed a bunch of them into my radio, of course, and this one came up on Stony Ford. Stony Ford is up outside of Willows to the east. Correction, to the west of Willows, California. But I'm much further north in Shasta County. And you're down in San Jose where I used to live.
Speaker B: Over.
Speaker A: Roger.
Speaker B: The Carla network is a really interesting system. The two pl, I believe they use. The word scheme is very, very interesting. If you were on the local tone for the receiver up there, you could be carrying on a conversation. Meanwhile, two people in the Fresno area could be using their local tone on their local repeaters. And people in the Bay area could be conversing on any one of several different repeaters. And if they're all using the local tone, all those conversations would be simultaneous but not connected. Whereas now that we're both on the link tone, we're bringing up the entire system. So it really is an intriguing usage of radio.
Speaker A: Yeah, copy that. So to confirm, since you and I are on the linked repeater, is it conceivable or in fact the case that anybody else on the linked repeater. Carla. Can listen to us now? K9, Kilo Alpha Delta. I didn't get your radio sign, but did you copy my last transmission? I asked you if you think everybody on the Carlo link can hear us. You and I.
Speaker B: Over. The answer to your question is yes, you are coming out. Over the entire system. N6KN. Somebody else is talking. I'll yield to Ken. Go ahead, Ken. If you have traffic. No, you had just disappeared there for a second. Maybe your signal wasn't making it.
Speaker A: Go ahead.
Speaker B: Go ahead and resume. K9KAD, WB6, KHP, Whiskey Bravo 6, Kansas Highway Patrol. We are both using the link PL tone. The link CPCSS tone. So in answer to your question, yes, other folks who are listening to the Carla system are able to hear us. You even used a cutesy phrase. We are lighting up the entire system. Over.
Speaker A: Thank you for that. Whiskey Bravo Six, King Hotel. I didn't get your last fanatic, but if you tell me where you're at that'll tickle my funny bone. Where you're sitting in California.
Speaker B: And then N6 knee if you tell
Speaker A: me where you're at.
Speaker B: Same thing.
Speaker A: I'm just curious. I don't know if you heard I just programmed my radio last night or like 3am this morning to Carla. It seems it's working correctly, so I'm happy I did that. Right. I'm a brand new operator and just found out about Carla. Even though I was familiar with the initials or the acronym, I didn't really know what it stood for or exactly how it worked. But for everybody's info, I'm up here in Shasta County. Beautiful Shasta county in the foothills.
Speaker B: Over. Turn it over to somebody.
Speaker A: Well, if Nobody's gonna talk, K9K a D will clear. However, just put it out. A question I also learned of Web dmr, I think that's what it's called. Listen to hf. If you get a faint signal, you can go online and get Web dm. Dmr, I think it's called, and you can hear perfectly clearly. I don't know if any of you guys do HF or heard a web dmr, but it's crazy good. Over.
Speaker B: I mainly responded because you asked if anybody copied. I'm not capable of a long conversation now because I have something going on, but welcome aboard. Carry on. Include me out. I will turn it over to Ken, WB6KHP. Okay, that was a perfect double. Almost perfect. All right, I'm going to go back to listening, but this is Ken N6KE, and I'm down here in Chenauta, Columbia, Columbia, South America. Take care. I'll be listening.
Speaker A: All right, Ken, I think you said you're in Columbia, South America. If that's true, you're the longest DX I've ever had on any system on brand new. Can you just confirm before we both clear that you're in Colombia, Columbia, the country in South America, Is that correct?
Speaker B: Over. Yes, that is true. I am in Colombia. I am southwest of Bogota, Columbia and 16.
Speaker A: Copy that. Who needs HF when I can get Bogota, Colombia clear? As you were sitting in my living room or my ham Radio Shack. That is amazing. I'm like the little emoji where this head is exploding right now. You are coming in a 5, 9, as they say on HF. So enjoy your day down in there in the sunny Columbia. And I'm going to enjoy my day up here in sunny Shasta county, Northern California. K9 kilo alpha delta.

Speaker A: A ken kne and 6 kne. Ab4ld. How's it going?
Speaker B: It's going very good, Larry. How are you doing?
Speaker A: Doing good, doing good. Just got back from Birmingham about an hour ago and decided to come in here and turn it. Heard your voice out there and thought I'd get in and say good evening. What are you guys on central time zone?
Speaker B: We are eastern Eastern time. We're just sitting six o' clock right now.
Speaker A: Okay, that's kind of weird. I never would have guessed that. I thought you'd been on Central time, but hey, weirder things have happened. So you, you've been busy doing a lot of things around your house?
Speaker B: Well, I wish. Not a whole lot going on right now. I've got some congestion in my lungs. I've been battling for the last couple of days, but slowly getting better. Yeah, all is good. The wife is just finishing up. That's what she's doing. We're gonna have dinner here pretty quick and then tomorrow her and I are going to take off and go spend a couple of days at a. At a little resort. They call it a thermal. Thermal. That's not obviously in Spanish, but it's basically a, you know, a volcanic area of the mountain here. You can fit in some highly mineral hot springs.
Speaker A: Oh, okay. All righty. Well, I'm coming in through Las Vegas this time. Usually I go through Larry's note there in Florence. So this time I talked to my buddy Ralph. I've known him for, I don't know, 30 something years. N6. No, N7. T&D. I thought a6 didn't sound familiar, but yeah, I had seven T&D and he gave me his node number and it's connected to Carla. And on Wednesday nights at 9 o' clock, he disconnects to. They got a big group of guys from Arizona and all over the place get in and Big long net. I don't think I'll be awake for that. I had to get up early this morning.
Speaker B: Morning.
Speaker A: Go to Birmingham and have a. Have a test run. And I'm. I'm tired. I had to get up at 4 o' clock this morning. That's not my usual time to get up and get moving, but I don't think I'll make it till 9 o', clock, you know, but either it's 7 o' clock their time. 9 o' clock here. Alrighty. Well, good hearing again. And you take care. We'll catch you some other day. Gosh, I forgot your call already. Kne. N6 Kne AB4LD catch you later.
Speaker B: All right, Larry. Good to hear you. Take care. I do know that Larry, he did have his. His stuff turned off for a couple of days, but he is back online now. Okay, good to hear you. And you. You take care there in Alabama. N6 Kenny here in Genota, Col.
Speaker A: Hey, ken.
Speaker B: N6qob here. Hello, Jeff. What's cooking? Hey, you know what I'm gonna ask you. You got a few minutes to team view? I do. And say goodbye to Carla. I'll go ahead and disconnect this from the main hub. I do. Yeah, send me a password. Let me disconnect the main hub, and then you can just give it to me over the radio. And 16. Disconnecting from Carlamagne.

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System2 link up.

System11 link up.

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Command 6 qlp.

Must be nice. Sleeps in late and takes a nap in the afternoon. And 6 MBT.

And 6 72.