GEARS W TX (146.115 MHz) recordings for 2026-02-21

Speaker A: I'm sorry, I'm still here. I just had to go grab something out of the oven. My wife had put some onion tops. I went out this morning and cut off the onion tops a little bit and she went ahead and put them in the oven and was drying them. So she told me to take them out when the timer went off.
Speaker B: Yeah, I've been thinking about getting a temp gauge for one of the things I'm doing with my, my wood fired oven. Because whole chicken and well, turkeys for that matter. But I can only, I could only get a small turkey in that thing come out. Just absolutely incredible. Absolutely the best. And hams are amazing that way. You can get a cheap ham that hasn't been really smoked or anything and cook it that way and oh my God, it's just absolutely incredible.
Speaker C: Well, I like ham fine, but
Speaker A: I think you know what the problem is with hamster. At least a lot of hams you can buy and even the cheap ones because I buy cheap hams. But anyway they do fill them full of like that sodium nitrite stuff for preservatives. So gotta be careful of that stuff. I know my wife really shouldn't be having too much of that naturopathic dock over there near you is. Yeah. Told her to pretty much stay away from like lunch meat and anything like that processed with preservatives like sodium nitrate and nitrite.
Speaker B: Well, the hams. Hey, I'm at the water company and I see the guys coming out to get everything out of the pay boxes. So I better get in there. I'll be right back. N6GRG yeah, no problem.
Speaker A: K6MGK take care of business.

And 6 grt 36 local again.

Speaker A: Well, you were a bit scratchy, but I heard you anyway. Try to send you a message on signal sitting here. I decided I'd try to put it on the phone. I think I got it done. Adding contacts isn't the easiest thing. Maybe it's not that intuitive, but I think I got you on there. And so I'm guessing you. You have to wait till you get to a device to be able to even see if it's there.
Speaker B: No, it comes through just
Speaker C: like a text message, gives me a ding. And yeah, it's fine. It's there. It's an app, you know.
Speaker A: Right. I would suspect. But I was just thinking, if you were on the road in some fashion, that you're not near a device that you can get on the signal. Right.
Speaker C: Signal goes through cellular. Cellular data. So works on my cell phone.

Speaker A: So did you take care of your business with the water company?
Speaker B: Oh, yeah, but they've got everything rigged. You never, you never finish your business whether you use water or not. With them. They're just. It's ridiculous.
Speaker A: Well, it seemed like you were in there paying your bill not too long ago. I would suspect that, you know, maybe you've set it up as automatic payments by now.
Speaker B: Well, I would, but they had a leak and the bill jumped up to $300. So it's been kind of touch and go.
Speaker A: Is that recent? I thought that was a while ago.
Speaker B: That was a while ago, but I told him not not paying $300 in one month, so love to work something out. And I did doubt that. They're claiming the bill went up six months ago. Well, that was about when I set up the program. The bill went up enough that my payment, my higher payment barely made for any increases in what they got against the bill. You know, they went up enough that just making it so that it's just never going to be taken care of. So I don't know what I'm going to do with them.
Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. It's like dealing with a mob. You have to make a choice. You just deal with it in your pants. You done with or what? You know, I mean, you have to have water. And that's the thing, they know it. Right. So they know they got you by the. You know what.
Speaker B: Well, I'm seriously thinking about. I mean, we've had so much water come down, if I had a way to store it as it is, I'm storing. Five times 250, whatever that is, 1250 gallons, but I could be storing 5,000, 10,000 gallons very easily and to be pretty clean water. And if it was a black tank, it wouldn't turn green, so it wouldn't take much chlorine to make it so that it didn't turn green. So with these, these are clear tanks, so you have to put a little more chlorine in them if you don't want the water to turn green. But it's good. It's great for the, for the cooling the house and stuff like that. And right now I'm using a. For the sheep, so, you know, and all the bathroom needs and everything. So anyway, yeah, the signal app is working great.
Speaker A: Yeah. Well, anyway, if it's anything like what they do in paradise, they won't let you cancel or something. So, you know, they're going to make you pay. Ultimately they'll make you pay. Right. And if they won't let you cancel. Then you have to pay for at least a minimum service, whatever that might be called.
Speaker B: That's because you have a bunch of idiots in paradise that are going for anything they want. And they didn't do that here. They did it with some of the people they. But they had to write it into the deed to make it happen. And most of us don't have it written into the deed. So, yeah, it's not. That's not the case here. You can cancel and you can have a well, but what they try to get you with is it's kind of a conspiracy between the county and the water company. So the county says, oh, we'll just make it so that the well cost, you know, twice as much as it would to drill it just for the permits. Any. Just got that jpc 7. Connector. So. Now I. Okay, I responded to you already and now you're asking me to respond again. That signal. So maybe the first one was some sort of automated thing.
Speaker A: Okay, I'm just trying to confirm that it's working. And I haven't seen anything back from you so far or any notifications like on my phone that it went, you know, like I was expecting a text sound or something like you said.
Speaker B: Do you have the app?
Speaker A: Okay, now, now I just got the first thing that I saw something come across. So let me see. Yep, I see something now that even came across my computer screen. Hey, you're there, bozo. Okay, so that confirms that, that it worked.
Speaker B: I wanted to make sure that it definitely didn't look like an automated response.
Speaker A: Well, yeah, true. I, I would expect that you would call me names. So. Yeah, you're right. Anyway, that's the first thing I see on this. I mean, I open it up now and all I see is my first, my first message, then my second one about responding and then now yours that came in. So anything you sent before that didn't go through. So that reminds me a little bit of mesh network stuff because on the mesh it's the same thing. Like if you do a test message, the first one will say undelivered or whatever and then the next one will go through because now they've had a time to like, I'm going to say, like do some sort of a handshake or whatever with their keys and so that now they understand each other. So the second message works, but the first one don't.
Speaker B: Yeah, it's considered to be a message request on the first one. And it said, hello, Steve. KN6MGK was what it said and I said I accepted it. But it didn't actually type anything in. I don't think so that was the first, first response was to your actual name, which is B O Z O. I, I picked up a JPC 7, the V thing, you know, where you have two whips and one goes out at an angle. They're at different angles, but you can, you can actually change with this particular one, you can change the angle to flat or whatever you want. So I got that. The big black one, you know.
Speaker A: Okay, well see if I try to get more tricky. It took some time. Sent you another one anyway. Okay. Yeah. JPC 7 style adapter, I'm guessing some. Is it some sort of a adapter for the whip or is it a coil?
Speaker B: It's for a dipole and inside of the adapter there's also. So and this is what I wish wasn't there. There's a one to one choke in there too. And you can change the angle and all that sort of thing. But the one I would like, they want way too much money for and it doesn't have the choke. And the reason I want that one is because I want to build a loop, make it a trip, turn it into a loop. But as long as it has the one to one thing, you can't do what you need to do, which is match it to 200 ohms.
Speaker A: Okay, well, is it all because there's more loss in it or what? Because it seems to me like if it's a one to one, it wouldn't have any transformation in there and you can still add, you know, whatever you needed. I'm not even thinking you need a four to one. If it's maybe a two and a half to one or something like that. Can you possibly add that if you're using it as a dipole? If you were to put a loop around it, it seems like it would still measure, you know, the 150 ohms or something. That's probably going to be if it's real short to the ground. Or am I, what am I missing or not understanding.
Speaker B: That might work. Although usually you don't put the one to one on anything but 50 ohms as far as I know. But another thing about this gadget
Speaker A: is
Speaker B: how you're supposed to connect coax to it. I don't see any way to do that on this adapter, so I don't know how you could use it. All it's, all it's going to do for you is hold the, hold the whips in the air. So maybe this one doesn't have the one, the one to one in it. Maybe you're supposed to connect to the. Connect to something else. I don't know. Interesting.
Speaker A: Okay, well, having not seen it, I was kind of expecting there to be a. Was it a PL2? 239. So 239. So you can put in a piece of coax to it. So anyway, sounds like it might just be open feed. Right. Where you can just put anything you want at that point. Right. And any sort of transformer you want.
Speaker B: Yeah. This is not what I was expecting. And I don't think I'm thinking it. Either I was way off or it fake after all it says from Ally Express. Yeah, I don't know. Got me wondering here very much wondering what in the head I've got here.
Speaker A: Well, I know I seem like that guy Walt, Salty Walt forget his call sign right now. But the one from Coastal Waves and Wires. I've seen him use stuff like that and turn it into like a delta loop, a vertical delta loop. I don't know that I've seen him do one horizontal, but I've seen them do something like that. And I'm kind of guessing that's what you have in mind. Right.
Speaker B: Yeah. And I always thought that the connection came out the bottom, but there's something very similar. Similar to like 3 quarter inch pipe fitting on the bottom. So I don't know, this isn't like anything I've ever seen. Yeah, I don't know what I'm.
Speaker A: Well, the only thing I've ever seen, you know, on the delta loop that I've seen is a comparison with a dipole. And you know, when I've seen that, I haven't seen any advantage of the vertical delta loop, you know, low to the ground, like let's say for 20 meters versus you know, just putting up, you know, a dipole antenna at say, you know, 20, 20ft or 25ft, you know, so I haven't seen the whole point of it, but maybe I should try one to find out. One thing it could be is maybe it could be easier to be directional. Maybe you could configure it to make it turn pretty easy or something because of how you've got it. Maybe it could be on a tripod or something.
Speaker B: If I'm thinking, oh yeah, you use a tripod and it is directional because of that. So. But then the difference is with this one is that you're supposedly supposed to be able to turn it into an actual flat dipole or you can have the angle on it and it comes with a natural angle angle. They all do, but you're supposed to be able to change, Change the angle somehow by rotating. You're supposed to rotate the whole assembly. Inside. And it's got these little holes on it.
Speaker A: So I don't know.
Speaker B: This particular device doesn't make sense. It could be because it's some sort of copy, like copying the picture and putting it out. And it's definitely not the same device because the picture had things about it. You had to have one in your hand and try it and then you'd know what you have. So, yeah, I'm, I'm skeptical of what I've got here, but we'll see. I. I haven't unscrewed these screws and seeing if it'll do anything. Yeah.
Speaker A: So your, your thoughts on, say, excuse me, Cough. Kind of. So have you had any thoughts on emergency calls? Like if you're using your phone in that fashion that you described or you were using yesterday, at least that you would be able to make an emergency call without having to go run out and take it down from the air and so forth? I mean, even the idea of having an inexpensive, say, burner phone or whatever that you get from Walmart. Okay, I think it was called Straight Talk, something like that.
Speaker B: Well, at one time we had services available where we could do that. The technology has been available forever where we can make calls on our laptops and on our computers. We could make a phone call. And I noticed they shut down a lot of that type of service, but the technology has always been around. So I don't know.
Speaker A: Well, I remember having that program. I think it was called Skype at the time, and maybe it's still around, don't recall. But anyway. And I was talking with my sister and my mom at the same time on that, and that was pretty interesting. For a while that was all on the Internet, like you're saying. So I don't know. We still, we still have a voiceover, you know, if you use a router. Anyway. Yeah, the voiceover Internet protocol stuff. But. But yeah, I don't know how that works for, say, an emergency 911 call.
Speaker B: But the point is they had a way where you could dial an actual phone number and it could be 91 1, if that's what you wanted. Now what you're talking about is just voice over the Internet that's, you know, done a lot of different ways. It's built in with Skype, you know, but it's not an actual phone call and they're not using their, their, you know, landline to get to talk to you. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker A: Well, the, I mean the idea of a landmine has been non existent for most of us anymore for quite a few years now. They won't put one in. They've already cut them, you know, so that's all over. You know, at least here you couldn't get at and t to come out here and put it in a landmark for you. Anyway, a lot of the residential we tried to do, we wanted to keep that one, our old phone number and they wouldn't, they wouldn't let us. And they're doing that up in at the club up the hill too. So my understanding is it might take an act of congress to get some sort of a regular old school landline going all the way to your house.
Speaker B: No, the landlines are still around every whole lot of people that have them. But you're mixing up things again. You were saying 91 1. You were specifying 91 1. 911 is a landline. They answer it with a landline. It is a landline service.

Speaker A: As far as I know, there's no Internet protocol service for 911. So that's why I said you have to be able to go with something similar to Skype that actually allows you to dial a phone number that we could possibly make it to a landline, for instance. Then you're really dialing a number, and then you can dial 91 1. And that used to be, that used to exist. I don't know how they do it now, but it used to exist.
Speaker B: So are you trying to say that I couldn't call 911 from my house because I didn't have any landlines anymore? Because that wasn't true. I mean, I could, I could call them right here from my house phone, right? Not my cellular phone, but my house phone that's plugged into my house jack. But it does not go to anywhere on the street or anywhere in the, any pole that goes up in the air or anything like that. No, it doesn't. It goes to my router that was the Comcast Xfinity router. And so then it gets put on the Internet lines. And now as far as from where there it goes, I couldn't say. There could be landmines involved or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker A: Well, that's where the systems are important because what you're talking about is a system that's capable of getting to 911 just like a cell phone does. That's a, that's a special system and that goes to a special service that. Is different than a voice over Internet protocol. It is not the same thing. It takes one more, one more leap of service connection. I can't really describe it by giving you a letter, some letters or numbers, but it requires a different type of service, just like a cell phone requires a different type of service to get, to make it possible for you to dial a landline phone like a. Or, you know, another cell phone and have it ring and be a phone call. See, that's the difference. We're not talking VoIP like, like Skype that is on the Internet, never leaves the Internet for the most part, as far as I know.
Speaker B: Kn6MGK. So anyway, a lot, a lot of things like in our house where all the cabling and stuff was done, including the AT&T twisted pairs and all that business, but there were different outlets through the house and so forth. You know, a lot of things these days are funneled through that. So, example, like the 75 ohm coax cable that was for, say, the Comcast cable back the Old school Viacom stuff probably back on this house was built. Anyway, that stuff still runs through all the walls, right? And on the outside, like DirecTV just put up the dish and hooked into that. And then because that runs through all the walls, it funnels it to every, every room. So now we can hook up a TV in any room we wanted. Right. So versus, you know, the old days of the going all the way down the street into the Viacom boxes and all that stuff. And the same with those. The reason I bring that up as a tangent is because the AT and T lines were used in the same fashion. So from the router, it would go to that box, one of the boxes in the room. And then therefore you could put a phone, a you know, regular phone line like we had with the voicemail and all that business on any of the different phones jacks in the house.
Speaker A: Okay. I'm not sure we're still really together on what I'm talking about and the differences between what you're describing and what I'm talking about. I might have to talk about systems and get some help describing what I'm talking about. Maybe,
Speaker B: I don't know. But I can bet you that if somebody still has a regular landmine around here, and I'm sure that's possible, I'm thinking someone like maybe Mark in Orland or something like that. Anyway, I bet you it gets funneled somewhere, then it goes back into some other system or protocol where it goes over fiber optics after that, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't go to the old school landmine anymore.
Speaker A: Yeah, but you're talking about old school landlines as if that's what I'm talking about. And that is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the entire system of phone calls that are considered to be phone calls. And how that happens. And then you want to say, tell me. Well, I have Internet and it's all Internet. Well, it's not all Internet. There is Internet way that your system is connecting you to the system that is considered to be a phone call. And that's what I'm talking about. Phone calls are special. They are phone calls. They are not voiceover Internet protocol only type systems, like, as I said, like the system you were describing. And they're not. They're not, they're different.
Speaker B: Well, okay, so the only concern for me anyway, just going back to the original topic though, with, you know, having the ability to say, call 911 because your dumb neighbors coming over there threatening, threatening you or Something, you know, and you need to someone to come over and deal with that situation. I'm just trying to say as a friend, that would be my only concern. If you got it all figured out, that's fine. I don't know, I was just thinking that burner phone idea or something, but whatever. Maybe there is a computer program and you can easily access it that way. I don't know.
Speaker A: Okay, well my response to that was that at one time there was a way to use Internet to connect to the phone system which would then allow you to dial 91 1. That was my response.
Speaker B: Yeah, like something like that should be available and it should be available nationally, you know, like because it shouldn't matter, you know, if you have a service or not and you need help from an emergency responder. That something like that should exist. That I've never, never heard of it like you know, on a computer being able to make a phone call. But it sounds like it ought to be. I mean all of our laptops and stuff today have cameras and they have microphones and stuff like that. So I would agree something like that should exist.
Speaker A: There is a system out there that is called. That makes it possible to use VoIP smartphones and text to 911 dispatch center is called Next Internet, Next generation, excuse me, Next Generation 911 which operates over a secure IP based system known Emergency Services IP Network ESINet. So they have a way at one time though they had a way where you could make a regular phone call to someone who could be on AT&T landline with a wire coming into your house via the Internet. You could actually tell it on your computer. You wanted to dial such and such number and talk to that person on a landline phone at one time. And you actually probably have the equivalent of that except that it uses the Internet in addition to the wires and so forth. It actually goes into the tele to the major telephone company network. So you have that. You're just doing it a different way.
Speaker B: Okay, well I just looked this one up because I remembered that when I started my business I did this and I think it was at the start of it was called Google Voice and it still looks like it is called Google Voice. Nevertheless, I had phone numbers. I had two or three of them at the time because of having a business. And I wanted those phone calls even from my business phone line from my store to hit my cell phone. But I didn't want people to know my cell phone. So I had a Google Voice phone number and I would have that one redirect into my cell phone. So anyway, that way there, if somebody would call in, I could answer my phone, you know, my business name, and they wouldn't know that I was actually on my cell phone driving to make a delivery or something. But the point is that. Now I'll read this off, that personal use is still free, according to AI here. But it says free calls. Most calls to U.S. and Canada numbers are free with a small charge for specific ones. But anyway, it says you get a free US Phone number for calls, text and voicemail, accessible on computers and smartphones.
Speaker A: So it looks to me like they
Speaker B: still do offer something like that.
Speaker A: Yeah, I've got it on my phone right now. And the first thing they want to do is offer you a number, a phone number and your number. They don't know really where I am because I'm checking in with them on this cell phone Internet. So they're saying, you know, they're giving me a whole lot of places other than where I am, and they think I'm near Thornton, wherever Thornton is. I've never heard of it, but Lake Berryessi, Berryessa is way down, kind of close to Sacramento, so I guess so. I don't know why they would think I'm there.
Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker A: But
Speaker B: I don't recall that my. I don't remember my phone number, you know, that. That it gave me at the time. I don't remember it being like the same area code and stuff like that. I didn't care. It didn't matter to me what number I had because I was using the phone number that was given to me. Like, let's say your. Your current cell phone number right now. You could, you know, you would just. I would go on to that and I could hit a few buttons, kind of like a DTMS thing, and it would transfer the calls all. It would call forward all those calls to my. To my other. To the. To the Google voice number, if that makes sense.
Speaker A: Oh, sure. I'm sure there's lots of different features, but yeah, this is good to find out that they still do something like this. And it's free, and I don't know how hard it would be to use it, but call forwarding would be a good thing. If I could call forward my current cell phone number to this system, would I be able to do that?
Speaker B: Well, I think that would depend on the service you have on your. On your cell phone. You know, I was able to do that before. I was able to go both ways. But Anyway, I generally use it the opposite way. Like you know, I would have. I didn't want people to know my cell phone number. I didn't want every business, you know, I didn't want every. Not business. I didn't want every customer to know it. Yeah, sure, I would give it out to customers, my cell phone number, but you know, but I did want to take my office lines, you know, and forward them to my cell phone. So you're just going the opposite way. But. And it was allowed back then, but that had to do know the service provider. So I don't know, you'd have to see if that's possible, I guess on your current cell phone before you would try to attempt this anyway. But nevertheless, I mean, couldn't it still work? Like let's say, well, you know, you got your using your, your other phone for Internet stuff. So it's up in the air somewhere. And even if you gave out your say, your Google Voice photo number, someone could call you on that one. Right. And you'd be able to talk to them without having to deal with your phone in the air. And six mgk.
Speaker A: Well, my phone's got to be in the air because that's the only way I can get Internet. That's still going to happen. What this would make possible would be for me to. What I'd like to see if it was possible would be for if you dial my cell phone number, it forwards to this Google Voice number and then I can answer it on my computer. That's where it would be helpful. I have to have, in order to use a hotspot, I have to have this phone up in the air where the cell phone coverage begins to get strong enough to receive enough data to make phone calls and even YouTube for that matter. And it doesn't take much for it to do that. So an APRS is very similar. Yes. If I'm going to use a portable, I have to use beyond my roof for aprs here especially now because I think the site is down at. Chassis. The APRS site I think is down. So I'm having get APRS into readings and it does change things. But anyway, that's a whole another topic.
Speaker B: Yeah, and I would think that's exactly what you'd want to do is forward your, your cell phone numbers to this other Google Voice number that was, that's what I was kind of suggesting if that were possible. And I would think that it might be. But alternatively speaking just having Google Voice phone number, let's just say. And you can make Free phone calls on it. Let's say that you wanted to call the auto parts store to see if they have a part in stock. Right? You don't want to have to go grab your phone off of its location to make that call. So you could use the Google Voice phone number, maybe from a laptop or whatever to make that call. You could call several places around town. Whatever you had to do. Right. And then before you go, you can go grab your phone and take off and go do what you got to do. Because you want to have that phone with you, right?
Speaker A: Yeah. Right. We didn't change frequency. It started scanning. Yeah, there we go. Want to make sure I'm not on link. I see what made it start scanning. Or at least I see what made it stop scanning. I don't know if that starts it. Also, it's such a simple thing on this D710 to make it start scanning that it's kind of scary. It's not a very good thing. It's too easy to make it start scanning anyway. Yeah, Google Voice has some possibilities as far as helping me right now. So I'll have to investigate that. And you know what? I'm gonna get out and let's see what time it is. Come on now. Google Voice. And it won't let me out of it. Oh yeah, it's exactly five o'. Clock. The sheep are looking at me like, you dummy. Don't you know it's five o'? Clock?
Speaker B: All righty, well, I'll get off of here and we'll catch up with you maybe tomorrow or something. Unless something comes up. Yeah. Better go take care of your business there. Yeah, I got something I got to do too. For all, probably I'll say 73kn6mgk real quick.
Speaker A: Another three.

Speaker A: Thing I got from Ally Express that I've seen advertised on YouTube in various places is, you know those shelf brackets that you attach to the wall and then you attach the shelf to the shelf bracket. But the difference is that this particular shelf bracket, you just push some buttons on, on the thing or something like that and the whole bracket folds downward or maybe even upward for all I know. Maybe you could make it go upward, I don't know. I got a pair of them from AliExpress for practically nothing and came really quickly. And I'm going to try them out, see if there's some way I can use them and then the next thing I'll do is make it so that my bed folds up against the ceiling or something. I'm just kidding.
Speaker B: Well, I guess I don't, I'm a picture guy. I guess I don't understand completely. It's a fold down shelf bracket, so wonder how far it folds down. Does it go all the way down to like if you attach it to the wall, it would go all the way down to the back to the wall. Go that far. You know where it could be used as some sort of a closing door?
Speaker A: No, they don't, they don't go. You're stuck in 180 degrees there. They don't go 180 degrees. They only change 90 degrees. So the, the table or whatever it was that you're folding up or down folds 90 degrees only. And then. So I don't think you could use that as a door from a practical perspective. But the difference is that it holds it securely at 90 degrees. So you know, it turns it kind of into a table or shelf that you could disappear by folding it down against the wall or up against up or down against the wall and it disappears. See, so they like to use these types of things in places where you don't have a lot of space. That includes vans, boats, RVs, different places like that.
Speaker B: Well, I've seen various. I mean, I think I'm still having a hard time picturing that device, but I've seen various things like that that were used for like cabinets on RVs. You know, there are special angles and things where they came down and they had to hold in place. In fact, sometimes we had to put magnets on them, stuff like that anyway. Just little brackets and devices like that that were almost like a prop but. But the brackets were better than the props because the props would eventually wear out real bad versus these mechanical type things. Well, they couldn't wear out as easily. And you know, obviously when you're traveling down the road in an rv, you know, going over bumps and all that kind of stuff, those other kind of hydraulic props and things like that would lose their energy over time. Wouldn't take very long. Believe it or not,
Speaker A: You're talking about a hydraulic swap. Boy, I think of a prop as is the thing that makes a boat go. So I'm not sure what you're talking about there.
Speaker B: Yeah, so kind of like if you were to put a stick in your hood, when you lift your hood up, that would be propping it up. Right. So that's the type of prop I'm talking about, not like the prop of the boat, but that would be a propeller.
Speaker A: Right.
Speaker B: Really. Anyway, and I think they're really there like a gas. Gas charged, like a shock kind of like that. The device I'm talking about. But the, the brackets and stuff. I've seen some that were. That you're describing kind of like that. And they'd be used sometimes to hold up covered doors. And so like if you go inside of a. And it's on the ceiling, mounted on the ceiling of an RV and you open up the door, they didn't want to open it up all the way. So it would open up a part of the way and hold it there. And like you were saying, I don't know if 90 degrees is enough. But anyway, it would open it up and hold it there. But it was mechanical, so it didn't have any of that gas charged stuff that would eventually disappear relatively quickly on a new expensive rv. So they would use these mechanical brackets and instead.
Speaker A: Okay, yeah, well, this would work. This particular device would flat table. And the thing you're trying to do with it is like, like for instance, if you had it mounted to a seat that was right directly in of you, you could fold that table down and get it out of the way. So like in an airline you could have it mounted to the seat in front of you and fold it down and get it out of the way and things like that. You know, any place where you don't have a lot of space, you need to use every bit of space as creatively as possible.
Speaker B: Yeah. Yes, it's kind of what I'm thinking. And I'll give you an example that like Tad has on his van, you know the sliding door that you open the van with slides it back. Well, he has a sink right there. And so what do you want? Next to a sink is a little bit of working space. And so, you know, he has a piece of wood There, you know, let's call it a 12 inch by 14 inch or something, piece of wood attached to some of those, like, brackets. Right. And so he can pick up, you know, that. That kind of table or whatever, and then lock in the brackets and use it to say, put your cooking pot on or utensils that you're gonna like your spatula when you're cooking or whatever, next to the cooktop or whatever. And then when you're all done, of course, you fold it back down. And now you can, you know, walk into the sliding door and get inside of it. Right. So. But with it out, of course, it blocks the door because, you know, it's out. And, well, you might be able to go under it if you're a kid, but if you're an adult, no. So I'm pretty sure I get the idea what you're talking about, but I'm not 100%.
Speaker A: Yeah, I think you might be close. And to go one step farther beyond this idea, on boats, they have cook stoves with ovens in the bottom. And as you're going through the ocean or whatever, the wind is blowing your boat, especially if it's not a catamaran, it's blowing it so it's at an angle because of the sails. And so what they do is they mount this whole cook stove oven on a set of. Brackets that allow the hole to stove to stay vertical regardless of what angle the boat's at. And they call that a gimbal. That's a whole other idea, though. That's not what I'm talking about with this bracket thing. But they use these brackets on boats. RVs all over the place now. And the idea wasn't known well enough, apparently, that everybody every. They could still market it as a new idea, even though they've been around for a long time.
Speaker B: So
Speaker A: they put these ads on YouTube. Anyway, I gotta get out there. The sheep are like. I say, they're literally looking at me like, you bozo. What are you doing talking on the phone? What are you doing sitting in the truck when you know you're supposed to be feeding us right now? That's exactly what they're doing right now. And now they're starting to get a little vocal about it.
Speaker B: Yeah, the gimbal. That just reminds me of, like, you know, even people have smartphones and you don't want to take video. And they put their phones in a gimbal. That way they can walk around. And even though they're walking, it stays fairly stationary. The phone does, I think they're better today than they were originally. But anyway, yeah, so that would be cool if you want to cook your eggs and you want them to be on a level surface and you're on a sailboat. Yeah, a gimbal would be pretty nice. That way you could have an over easy egg as if it's scrambled egg anyway. But yeah, no, I could see for storage, you know, campers and stuff. That's why I was trying to mention that because, yeah, there's always little spots like at the end, like where I see them in RVs a lot of times at the end of a countertop, you know, by a sink or something like that. You wanted to have a quick place to be able to put your utensils as you're cooking or something like that. But then when you're driving along or on a normal basis, you, you want that stowed away. So yeah, that's what you do. So maybe it stick out an inch from the cupboard, but that would be better than 14 inches. So anyway, all right, go feed your animals. Yeah, it's been 12 minutes since you said that. 5:12 now. 7:3 kn:6 mgk.
Speaker A: Oh, by the way, the most famous of those gimbal phones, I got a term for those phones, they're like action phones or something, is the DJI3 something. If you look, just put. I think if you put DJI in three in the word gimbal, you'll. They'll talk about it. And it's. It's considered to be the best phone on the market for making it possible to show an action situation without all that phone movement and everything. One of the dji, it has a three in the number. I know that and I'm seriously considering getting it, if not even the number. Newest phone. It's just the best one they've ever come up with.
Speaker B: As far as I know.
Speaker A: No one in the federal government has told us we can't have that at this point. All right, talk to you later. N6 GRG. Off to the, off to the sheep zone.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, you can expect Trump to put an executive order that you can't have it and then the Supreme Court a few months later will say that's not legal. 73kn6MGK.
Speaker A: Yeah, they did some of that today. A big no, no. They told him the biggest program he's ever, his most favorite program. And they said, nope, can't do that, sorry, bye bye. Radio is off.
Speaker B: Well, I already said 73kn6mgk. Going back to monitoring.

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