GEARS W TX (146.115 MHz) recordings for 2026-03-09

Speaker A: 11 link up
Speaker B: k6l n k system 36 no mountain range
Speaker A: f6qop.

System 7, link up k6lnk system 36, no mountain range.

Los angeles link up. K6lnk system 36, snow mountain range.

K6lnk system 36, snow mountain range.

Fresno link.

W0d a.

Grg portable with a big long rubber ducky. Grg 36 local.

Well, I was supposed to have a dental appointment today, but it got canceled. Can 6 MGK? Well, depending on what's going on, you might be happy or you might be sad. N6GRG on a Super long rubber deck.

Speaker A: Well, the super long rubber ducky is working for you. A little bit of white noise back there. You're getting in any way, Any plans for the day? Well, unfortunately, you couldn't hold down the repeater that time and you were very quiet, so for whatever reason, I couldn't understand whatever you said.
Speaker B: Okay, Yeah, I have to make sure I find a good spot. Is this okay?
Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's fine. Anyway, yeah, if you could repeat what you said that last time.
Speaker B: Anyway, yeah, I'm gonna take on JSA call again. What my radio is doing is when tests, you know, when you do the CAT test, you know, where you push the CAT button, it sends something to the radio and the radio says, well, what am I supposed to do? Go to VFO A or VFO B? And it flashes both VFO A and VFO B frequencies on the screen very quickly and then it just, it doesn't give me a cat. But the tx, the push to talk does, stays right on frequency and just keys up, but there's nothing coming out. So that's where I'm at.
Speaker A: Okay, well, yep. Okay, well, that sounds good. And what computer are you going to be using? And what radio? I'm assuming the 7300 on the radio.
Speaker B: Yeah, 7300 and PI 400, which is supposed to be a PI 4B inside the PI 400, which looks like a keyboard, is what you see, just a keyboard with a pi4b inside.
Speaker A: Okay, and are you going to be on 20 meters or 40 or what?
Speaker B: Well, since JSA call is not working, I won't be on anything until I get it working.
Speaker A: Okay. Yeah, I was just thinking I would have my radio sit on. On 20 meters or something like that, but. Okay.
Speaker B: Yeah, if you had that alert working, you'd know when I came up, I just. My alert just went off and somebody's probably doing a photo.
Speaker A: Oh yeah, well, could be. I know your friend Ko5se was on yesterday. Later. Well, our time late at night, like seems like 10 o' clock or something. Our time?
Speaker B: Oh, on side bend on 20 meters.
Speaker A: Well, he was using FT8, but he was actually off frequency, so on purpose probably, you know, talking with whoever he wanted to. Whoever knows where they are. Maybe. Maybe spotted himself up there. But it was, you know, instead of being on 1407 Ford, he was on like 1409 something. I don't know, I'd have to look at it again. But anyway, it wasn't, it wasn't the normal ST8 frequency.
Speaker B: Well, of course ST8 is there's only so much you can do with it until somebody was on and that's about it. Kl7r is doing KSA call 247 now taking my place and maybe communicating with the folks up in Anchorage which is where he lives in the summer. And I don't know where KL5X he would do but be located but normally he in anchor east or Fairbanks just like KL7R Fairbanks like 8 Anchorage I think before Fairbanks is what I meant to say. And all his buddies are up in Fairbanks and they're not actually in Fairbanks. They're in in the boondocks around Therabang. Can you tell from FP8 where someone is?
Speaker A: Well how is it any different than JSAs or anything else? I mean yeah, by call sign
Speaker B: you
Speaker A: know, unless they say otherwise. I mean I don't, you know usually they'll say otherwise by a stroke. Something like if they're six and they do stroke seven or something like that, maybe it'll be in a different area. But yeah, I mean you can't write messages back and forth. Maybe a small one line thing you could if someone really cared to be paying attention to that. But so yeah just by looking up call signs is really it. Or on the FP8 on the left side before you click on them it might tell you about you know a country or you know or Texas or so say state or something like that. But it won't give a city not as far as I know. So anyway like say it was Ecuador or like Colombia or whatever it would say that before you even clicked on it.
Speaker B: Well with JSA call you can ask where someone is and it will tell you the grid square of where they are.
Speaker A: Yeah so it's the same thing on fda. I mean when people put out a CQ it usually says their grid square right there but you'd have to look that up still.
Speaker B: Yeah. In fact there's several other options for JSA calls. You can do info and they will tell you what they typed in for their info and quite often write the city where they are, you know exactly their outskirts of whatever city where they are. And yeah you can, you can tell a lot with JS8. You can get as much information as they they decide to. And you don't have to have the Internet.
Speaker A: Well if you don't have the lookin up grid squares very easily you don't have the Internet or something that way unless you have a big map of all the grid squares somewhere. So yeah I think you shall do
Speaker B: negative, negative, you Get a text sentence that says where they are, what rig they're using, what antenna they have, everything. All you do is you send out an info question mark and you get all that.
Speaker A: Yeah, Well, I mean GS8 is a good. I have it on right now and I see 20, 20 meters is pretty active, but right now I'm not decoding, so I'm gonna work. I'm working on that. I have to fix the setting here. Maybe my audio settings aren't on right now. Something. So fix that real quick.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's interesting, the Burr Brown thing. If you're running Linux.
Speaker A: Yeah. This is Windows on this. On my, my little laptop here that I bought for 200 bucks. It's got Windows 11 on it. So that's what's running it right now. I try to do everything on this laptop for about the last, oh, year, 18 months I guess.
Speaker B: Well, if it updated
Speaker A: then the
Speaker B: audio. Audio is not going to work. That's exactly the problem I had.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, for me I'm just. I'm seeing decodes and stuff, but so far I haven't put a heartbeat out or nothing like that yet.
Speaker B: Yeah. So you think it transmits now?
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, I can. I can transmit. Yeah, but haven't checked. Haven't checked it yet. I'm about ready to.
Speaker B: Yeah. So that'd be a quick check. Audio and settings and change to real audio from your codec. There you go.

Speaker A: But I really want to get my PI 400 working because it's far more reliable. It'll run for a week without being restarted or who knows how long. It'll run for a long time without having to be restarted. With Windows I had to restart it every day. And I'm talking about JS8 will run for a week and with. With Windows I had to restart it to get JS8 working again.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, I put out a heartbeat, but no, no responses I'm seeing. So yeah, I've got some work to do on this and my transevo is definitely putting out, so. And let's just see what's going on here. Mostly I think it's a timing thing or something here.
Speaker A: Well, if you set up View and look at View to show the time of every station in milliseconds in your column, actually you'll see you don't. Do you go to the column on the left hand side and tell it to show timing. I think that's how you make that. That's what you have to do for starters. Do you have that. Hope I didn't make it that time. You go to the left hand side on the top of the columns and right, right click. And it brings up a bunch of possibilities there until it's fine.
Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's not a timing issue at this point. Yeah, it's not getting the decodes so I gotta work on that anyway. So that's where I'm at. I'm working on getting some decodes right now. I'm seeing them, but I've got a computer issue so I'll be back. KN6MGK.
Speaker A: Does it show? Well, let's see if you're not showing anybody at least. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker C: And you know how I say.

Yeah, still around.

Speaker A: Okay. N6MGK back on frequency trying to see what I can do about using the WWV timing. So I don't know. I tried the set time drift to now minute start. That's what I tried to do. I don't know if a different one that one should try but that's the one I tried.
Speaker B: Okay. And then you wait until he says he speaks and then he first it'll be the Hawaii person and then it's the male voice and then beep and that's when you click on it. Sometimes I have to double click.
Speaker A: I don't know, I just clicked it one one time so and yeah, the male voice I did it at first when the female voice because I was expecting it but then the male voice came on so anyway, let's see the decodes coming across. Let's see if I get it.
Speaker B: Yeah, I found that I've had to double click real quick.

Speaker A: Well, sending out a heartbeat. I do see a decode of some sorts, so we'll see.
Speaker B: All right, we got it. And. You have that column fit on the left hand side that shows timing.
Speaker A: Yeah, I always have my timing on, so, yeah, I mean, you taught me that about four years ago, I'd say, about putting the timing on. So, yeah, I try to pay attention to it and be within, you know, a few hundred milliseconds of other people if I can.
Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. Well, with windows, you know, you're gonna have to know how to do all this stuff because the automatic thing is terrible and I don't like it at all. And boy, I can't believe something's actually water running. The watering system on there already. Proposition. But some of these people where I am right now have a lot of money.
Speaker A: Well, I've had to. I've had to run water already. So I'm going to go up there to paradise here. I've got something to do here at the house for a little bit, but then I got to go to paradise and I'll have to hit water everywhere. I'll probably spend three, four hours doing watering at some point, whether it be today or tomorrow or whatever, but everything's all dried out.
Speaker B: And how about those gas prices
Speaker A: paid like 432 yesterday. I don't know. We'll see after the day's over. Because overnight the price of oil was up to 117 a barrel but backed off. I think it's still hovering around 100 bucks a barrel. Yeah, stock markets have already kind of come back from where they started. The Asian markets really took a dump, but our market started out that way this morning, but it looks like it's already pared the losses at least.
Speaker B: So.
Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker B: Yeah, interesting world right now, that's for sure. And the guy that's started this work, we care less about the gas prices, especially in California. And if you've seen the. The blurb, Israel is saying we started it and we're saying India started it. And Trump says he says something different every day.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, the Trump administration in general has. They mix up and get chaotic with all their messaging. So, yeah, hard to pick up on what they're exactly doing or what they really believe. So I agree with you there. I think some of it they do it that way on purpose, some of it they're just not on the same page all the time. I don't know. Anyway. Yep. I don't know. I didn't. I sent something to this guy the one that I saw on JS8 said 200 milliseconds, so seems like I should have been okay. But anyway, I'm missing packets. You know, it gives me the dot, dot, dot. Then It'll say day 73.
Speaker B: So I have no idea
Speaker A: how many.
Speaker B: What's the decibel rating from his signal?
Speaker A: -04, I think it must be. Yeah, no, this one's. This one's. One guy is minus 16, and the other one is minus 04. So, yeah, it's hard to know. And I'll send out a heartbeat this time and see if I get anything back. I was just trying to. There was a guy that was on, and I could see he was talking. You know, I even put out, like, something w copy me, you know, and it's in green, so I figured, okay, well, on that frequency, you know, and I'm seeing a heartbeat now. Someone else just sent a heartbeat and 100 milliseconds, so timing seems to be okay. But minus 17 DP on this one.
Speaker B: Well, the minus 17 guy would probably be a tough one if he's receiving you. I just think you'd have to go. You'd have to type in SNR question mark and get his. Find out what he could do.

Speaker A: Well, I mean, I'm PSK reporter, it looks like I came up and it's on my HAM alert. So KSA call and it says I've been heard by this guy ks0usa, which he's coming up on my screen here at minus 3db. So anyway, I'm being heard I guess, but there's nobody on. I guess that's why I'm not getting much for response. Pretty typical. So anyway, kind of slow action versus FT8. So busy, you know, four or five T codes at least every 15 seconds.
Speaker B: Well, back when I had mine running, I would put a HP out at 0.6 volt watts. 0.6 watts, and I did about 10 responses.
Speaker A: Yeah, I suspect it'd be better if I was on 40 meters at the right time of day. Right now I'm just on 20, seeing what I could get. So anyway, not seeing. Not seeing a whole lot of traffic at the moment, but at least I know it's working and it's on there. So anyway, yep, maybe you'll get it working. I'll leave it running for a while. We'll see. Yeah, so yeah, that PI 400, that PI 400 should, should do the trick, you think? As long as you got all the radio settings right and everything.
Speaker B: Well, I'm going to go back to my old JSA7300 bedding option. I've got this one program that goes through about 15 or 15, 20 different options for the FT for the 7300. The preset only says a few things and. But like I said, mine is doing some kind of a weird split thing and I'm not set to split at all, so I don't know what's going on. I'll figure it out. But I'm gonna be talking with a guy who is trying to keep me from walking on the fire. What they are trying to call an emergency only fire road and trying to block it off to the public. And I'm gonna get the sheriff over here and deal with this once again for all.
Speaker A: Okay, Yep. Well, I just put on PSK reporter to see where I'm being heard and I'm definitely being heard back in the east coast mainly and went over to Alaska, so. So I know it's working. All right, talk to you later. 73 KN6NGK.
Speaker B: Have you put out an HP yet?
Speaker A: Yeah, I put out one. One. That's it. So I'll just let it run for a while. We'll see what comes up.
Speaker B: All right. Yeah, you'll be surprised it will still alive. Although you're on 20, so you're right. It's just because everybody on
Speaker A: 40.

Speaker A: Yeah, steve, kn6mgk, n6trg. You're showing on jsa call on alert because I've got it set up so it'll show that n6grg.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's the first place I saw it just so happens this guy came back to me, you know, and I'm texted. Well, chatting with him back and forth. Right now that's the way I prefer to do it, you know, is call signs Kilo, Sierra, 0 USA, KS 0 USA. Anyway, and I just wrote him a paragraph so he's gonna come back to me, I hope, and then I'll see what he's up to.
Speaker A: Well, a couple more options with the later JSA call that was put out, you know, a few years ago is you can be typing while he's talking to you, you can be answering his questions as he talks to you and keep adding to what you're going to send him as you go and it'll allow you to do.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm doing. But you know, it doesn't appear he's doing that. So I don't know because yeah, I was watching his decode come in and I'm hovering right over his spot and I could just read it as it comes in and I'm just typing my response and right when he was done transmitting, I hit send.
Speaker A: Yeah, it speeds up the QSO when you do that. That's perfect. So maybe they'll get a clue also, you know, to find out how well he's receiving you. The option that comes up when you, you know, there's a list of things you can send people and SNR? You could, or you could just type in SNR? And it return that singularly. So you what? How? Well, he's receiving view in decibels.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know, yeah. But that's all based on automatic replies and I much prefer like this guy here, I just happened to catch him on. So I went on his frequency, his offset and just started, I typed in you know, something and then I hear nothing back from him. And then you know, after you left to do whatever you're doing there he comes back. Did you disappear? No, I'm still here. So yeah, he's responding to me now. You're the only one I see on the waterfall. That's what he's saying right now. Well, I saw one other. I saw that Sua W7 Sua. So, boy, thinking about that, we have lots of people on this frequency before from Steve to Dennis to David, a whole bunch of other folks. But, man, this is quiet these days. KN6, MGK.
Speaker A: Well, they're all over on 40. 40's always been quiet. It's just 40 works so well. It'll cover the whole entire United states. So if you want foreign countries, then 40 is the place to be. But otherwise, you got to.
Speaker B: I was talking on system 36 is what I'm talking about. Like Steve and Dennis and David and a whole bunch of other guys not out here anymore. Very quiet out here.
Speaker A: Well, John's in the area. Sln's in the area. And maybe we'll hear from him today. He was not up in mineral, though. Last time I talked to him. He was not in mineral. Yeah, you know, on the road I'm on right now, A semi truck came down, the part that doesn't have any gates to deliver a package to a guy that has a mobile auto repair company. I don't know what he was ordering, but maybe an engine or something. But anyway, it's old semi truck came down with a great big huge trailer. And then as I'm out here walking around, I see a big old hole in the ground that was caused by that semi truck. So, yeah, this road is not the deepest road based and not very wide. The guy that was harassing me, Telling me I was on private, A private road, Was the son of the actual owner of the property. And I told him, hey, you know, you're way out of line. You don't know what you're talking about. This is a public. Right away. What about the word public do you not understand? And he continued to harass me and continued to say he wasn't harassing me. So I. And then he called his dad and his dad came down and visited his brother and son. And I would love to get the sheriff out here someday to talk to those people, But I don't know if it's ever going to happen. And it's one of those neighborhoods that puts up signs saying on a public road, way, way, way. You know, about a mile back from where I was, they put up signs that they. This is private from here on. Don't come any farther On a public road. And then these people tried to put a gate on the public road. On the page road, they tried to put a gate. So, yeah, these people are saying,
Speaker B: Well, looks like this guy is in topeka, kansas. According to his qrz page. I decided to look him up. Yeah, looks like he's been around for a while. He's got 18,000, is that right? No, 185,602 lookups. That's quite a bit. So, yeah, he's been around for a while.
Speaker A: He's probably.
Speaker B: Well, he does log on. Logbook of the world. So, yeah. Anyway, I logged him on QRZ just because I'm having a live QSO with him right now.
Speaker A: Yeah, that guy's been on. That guy's been on GSA for a long time. I think it's w. Is it w7 usa?
Speaker B: Yeah, he's on right now, too, but probably just his automatic station. I saw it pop up. It says five minutes ago. Let's say five minutes ago. No, 13 minutes ago. Plus zero. Two decibels. I don't think it puts out the
Speaker A: TVs like that, does it? It's just minus or plus and a whole number, but. Oh, well, I don't know how you're seeing that. I'm not there.
Speaker B: On the right side under call signs. It gives you the call sign and it gives me the age, and then it gives me the SNR, which in his case it says +0.2DB. That gives me the hertz and the time delta also. So that's where I'm seeing it. This other guy is -16 dB, and the guy I'm talking to right now is -0.6 dB. That's how it goes.
Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So you just say 2dB, minus 6dB for those two people. Leave out the zero. Yeah. So sounds like you've got signals on 20. You know, I was on 15 meters during the DX contest, and I. I got a couple of super DX stages. One was started with a P and another one I've got. I don't know if I got the one that started with a P in the logbook, but I got the. The other one in there. I could put them up.
Speaker B: Yeah, the P is probably like Brazil. I see them guys come quite a bit,
Speaker A: actually. I have to look him up on my cell phone. Anyway, what am I saying?
Speaker B: Here's his response. KN6MGK, FB. So find business. Perf copy. This guy must be into CW. Perf copy on all. Get to your garden. I'm telling them gardening today as it is that time of year. I said so. Sounds like he's gonna let me go here. We'll see. Yeah, I need to head to the. So I'm finishing it up here. But anyway. Yep. So that was good qso. I'll let him know that I logged him in, and then I'll take off and do what I got to do today. Hopefully you get yours running.
Speaker A: Would you say do CW? And see what he does?
Speaker B: Yeah, I don't got time either. I need to get outside. Start at 10 o'. Clock.
Speaker A: Yeah, I'm bringing up, bringing up the qrz. Com.

Speaker A: Now it won't go there.
Speaker B: Okie dokie. Well anyway, yeah, yeah, you definitely said 7:3 here, so. So yeah, you can get kind of when you do these. One time I was talking to this guy, it was later at night, like 10, 11 o' clock I think I was up until 1 o' clock in the morning just writing back and forth in the sky and checking out his QRZ page. And he built his own, some of his own equipment and I was looking at that and just chatting back and forth on JS8. So it's fun for me to do stuff like that versus just the auto replies and put messages in boxes. I don't really care for all that. But like on a field day event like the winter field day, it was fun because your people have to be there in front of theirs. We just, you know, it was a real quick qso, but you know that they're sitting at their station and it's just back and forth so you can say a little bit other stuff with your signal report and your class and section and stuff. So I think I only got like seven contacts that way. But it was fun, you know, and I'll do it, I'll do some more of that again. That's the fun way.
Speaker A: Well, there's a bunch of places on JSA poll where they set it up so you can put a bunch of answers to typical questions that people might have. There's three different places and you can tell them where you're at. Typical one, I forget, it's just info info question mark. Type info question mark for that station when you're. Or when you start it in the blue area on your thing there on your right hand side where it's blue selected that guy typed in the old question mark and that's the first one. And people type in all kinds of stuff here and then the second one is idle and that comes up automatically after a while. And I don't just say I'm idle or something. I put a whole bunch of stuff in there because it lets you do it. So I just do it. I told them I never idle and do do this, do that and have fun.
Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, I don't need to ask questions anymore. That guy responded at the end of mine, dit, dit. You know what that means?
Speaker A: Yeah, but everybody uses that and they're not necessarily btw people I use that. So whatever Dodger da, you know, go K or qsl, everybody knows those, those responses whether they do CW or not.
Speaker B: And then another station, this kilo echo 2 station just put out a CQ, CQ for all calls. But anyway, so I. I responded to him to see if he'll get back to me.
Speaker A: Yeah, let me see. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And I can't remember. L. It's like da or something like that.
Speaker B: I don't know. What are you trying to say?
Speaker A: Well, D, D, D, D, what's that? What's that? Qs and then I said I couldn't remember what l was for sure.
Speaker B: Okay, wait for response here. Anyway, I'm gonna get going. If he doesn't respond. Are you. Are you back at your QTH now? Are you walking back?
Speaker A: Well, I'm all the way over on Cloverdale now and I've got a dog behind me that's supposed to be a very, very nice dog, but all doesn't work. His name is Shadow, just like my dog was years ago. But it's a female. Mine was a male. A male lab here in New Jamaica. Then I've got a couple of sheepdogs up in front of me, border collies, and they like to bark. That's about all I do. I'm right on Cloverdale, which is the old gold rush trail into the gold rush territory. I found out that there was Cloverdale, and it's not down by the valley, it's Cloverdale, which is my road.

Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna try to get to him, but it's gonna be tough because he's talking to somebody or trying to. So KL7R just came on. So he's already.
Speaker B: You think he's already linked up to somebody?
Speaker A: Yeah, I can hear. Hear his
Speaker B: station right
Speaker A: now
Speaker B: saying
Speaker A: now. And I'm hearing it transmit. He's a plus plus six db. So he's
Speaker B: maybe Delta Uniform, India.
Speaker A: I had no idea. Yeah, let's try to decode him, I guess. Get over this spot here. He's over around 2000.
Speaker B: Yeah, Delta Uniform India was a. Is a guy that's always been on from day one, just like I was always on. He's been around forever. I think his name is Mark. And he lives in arizona over by kl7r.

Okay, well, he's got me. He's coming back to me right now.

Speaker A: I was moving one of my sheep that I have eating all the, all the stuff outside of my fence between the road and the fence.
Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, he says, he said good morning hi to Mi but I had some broken packets. Okay, I will say hi. I'm saying okay, I'll say hi. He's on VHF anyway, so we'll see. Hopefully he responds one more time here. But anyway, definitely got him on right now.
Speaker A: Yeah, different subject. Their sheep is what they call a bottle fed sheep which means that its mother died and I kept it alive by feeding it with the bottle. And they're quite different. They, they actually are extremely pain. Even Rudy doesn't bother this guy. He just keeps, just put his head down and say I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker B: So
Speaker A: yeah, that's what this shoe is that. I got TV stuff out by the road and the TRD.

Speaker A: Sorry, my volume got turned down.
Speaker B: Well, I was kind of hoping for a response. I'm not seeing one so far. So I may just throw in the towel. Or I'll send a message to him put in his box. I don't know. Anyway, I need to get going. That's 15 minutes. So I've done enough. I better say 73 kn 6 mgk.
Speaker A: Well what I do when that happens is I type info question mark and types out a whole bunch of stuff about his station and make it so that he'll want to go over there and see why his transmitter. That way you can have a conversation. Yeah, there's a lot of little secrets. And 60 RG.
Speaker B: Oh yeah. No. Well, he was at a station. So he was. And that's how come he responded to me. I didn't put any messages in the box. I just went on his frequency and put his call sign in there and started talking. So. And he came back to me. So he knows anyway. But that doesn't mean you heard me this time. That could be the propagation way it goes sometimes, but it was a pretty good signal so I would think. I would seem to think it would hold up anyway. 73 to you and we'll talk at you later. Good luck getting that JS8 running KN6 MGK.
Speaker A: I'll be glad when I have it back. I like using all these little automated features it's got and maybe propagation and such that I'll get a signal relay from. It first started out a guy in England relayed through a station in Australia and put a message in my mailbox and I was never able to get back to him. But it did work and he says this is a long way to hit you and hit the erc. I'm out of here. I'll let you get out of here.
Speaker B: I've got to put
Speaker A: this radio down. Put this radio down, turn it off for a minute and go trick a few sheep into getting tied up so I could put it out with that other sheep because sheep do not like to be by themselves. N60 Archers.

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