2m Simplex (146.520 MHz) recordings for 2026-01-18

Speaker A: We'll see
Speaker B: if I like it or not.
Speaker A: I'll figure something out. John was just telling me he would like to take me and Lori out to Snore Case. I've never eaten. I've heard.

Speaker A: Yeah. So I got two
Speaker B: sub panels. Got two of them wired up for the most part. And we're gonna.
Speaker A: So he could park his
Speaker C: trailer. Wants to set it up so there can be two trailers. I may never use them, but that's the last. You put in all kinds of nice LED lights and everything. I still got that to do. So anyway, probably got another three or four
Speaker A: days. I've already been at it while. Some type of.

Almost everybody loves it. I didn't like tuna fish in a can or whatever. You.

Speaker A: Good morning. K&6mgk.
Speaker B: Most likely just work around the house.
Speaker A: I guess Maybe the wife will want to go somewhere this afternoon.

Well, sometimes the decisions are made for you, right? You don't get to make them.

Yeah, but, like, I'm guessing what kept you occupied yesterday morning was probably something that you, you know, you didn't really get to make a decision on. You had to be there.

It's pretty hard to beat the weather. So if you're into radio, this is, like, some of the best times to get out and do stuff. I think 65 degrees. Oh, yeah.

Speaker A: Yeah, we have a dense fog advisory. I guess I haven't looked outside yet, but it has been a little patchy as you go south, anyway. Yeah, 65 for the high, 38 for the low. That's probably about what it is now. Probably somewhere around 40 anyway. But yeah, that's pretty good. Same way for the next couple days, and then maybe a little tiny bit of a cool down by 2 degrees. I don't think we can beat this weather right here. I mean, 40s in the morning and 60s in the afternoon there.
Speaker B: And I'm guessing. Let me look at Paradise. Yeah, it says it's 51
Speaker A: already. I don't know, Sometimes it's kind of hard to believe, but same high, 65. I know there's an inversion layer, so that must be what's going on.

Yeah. Yep, yep. So time to get out and do Sapoda or something. Go to the Table Mountain. I don't know. Of course there's a couple places down here in Chico, but we're Yano Seco. Yano Seco is a good spot, really. Just want to enjoy the day. It's nice, sunshine and everything. Only when it went too windy the last time I was there, it was beautiful.

I can have my little cheap vertical up in about five minutes. So yep. So it's in the back of my truck right now already stabbed together, radials just wound around it. So yeah, like I doubt you can get. Your brother can get his JPC 12 up in five minutes. So that little guy can be on the air in about eight minutes. I won't see Yano Seiko. That's how you do it. There's no and for you. Like sometimes the wind picks up across that little valley to that rice padding. So yours fell over a lot of times. My verticals never fell over. So you have to tie it off or something. I don't know. That can be kind of interesting. I don't know about propagation. Is it any better or worse? I don't know, it's hard to think. Who'd have to compare? I guess that's the tough part. It doesn't matter as long as you get out and put it up and get it done. I can tell you that. Yanozenko, if you just backed up to those like little rocks that are like, you know, that little, I guess they're maybe 2 foot in diameter or something that kind of gets, you know, kind of gets the parking. You can back up to it, you know, a couple three feet away or four feet away or whatever and put your antenna right back there. I mean it worked great. So that's a no brainer to that. But there's a lot of people that come in and out, you know, so I mean there was a couple people asking me questions and stuff but they were just out checking out the birds, you know, and then they'd be there for, you know, 15 minutes or so and they'd leave.

Yeah. Okay, so let me. Let me ask you this, okay? I'm on 20 meters on my cheap. My cheap little $45 antenna. So in 20 meters, I just raise it all the way up. Okay? That's it. That's quarter wave on 20. It's got, you know, roughly 1.1 to 1, you know, SWR there across the band. Okay. I want to go to 15 meters. I just got to reduce it down to, like, you know, five sections sticking out. Okay, I can just walk over to it. Do that. That's like a couple of minutes. Okay? And I'm on 15 meters. What does it take for you to go from 20 meters to 15 meters?

Speaker A: Right. I just remember you getting out your tape measure and measuring this and that. Now I think, let's see. I think you can do 40 on it or something, right? But you have to put a coil
Speaker B: in it or something. Is that right? Right. So,
Speaker A: yeah, that just took you some time and skill and that's quicker and I would do the same thing and that counts. So. But if you were just setting it up the first time, then you have to throw in your rig expert and all that kind of stuff. You know, that takes a little bit more time. So you see what I'm saying about you asked question. Why? Well, that particular one, MFG is out of business, so they don't sell it anymore. I haven't seen anything like that one around. I remember you having some problems with it too, but they fixed it or something. Nevertheless, it's more finicky. Right. So vertical antenna can be real simple. I just know that like the JPC12 has multiple parts to it. So putting one inside the other, and hey, if you're not careful, you'll strip one of those sections out, then you're dead in the water. KN6MGK.

Yeah, all the time is worth it if it, if it makes a difference, if it makes a difference on the kind of contacts you're making. So like if the takeoff angle is slightly different, which I'm sure it is, you know, maybe I'm getting further out on the vertical and I want closer in contacts and it'd be better to have yours. I could tell you when I put up an NSAID half wave I'm usually only getting them up around 20ft anyway as a sloper or 20, yeah, probably 20ft, you know, maybe 25ft at the most. But you know, as a sloper, I mean I get a lot of west coast stuff and a lot closer and I can't get DX with that. So with a little vertical I've spoken to, not spoken but I've CW with, you know, Italy and Sweden and so forth and can't seem to do that with an N fed halfway.

Speaker A: Yeah, I just, I have a piece of rebar, of course, work for a concrete guy, but you know, get yourself a three foot piece of rebar and I just, you know, knock that in the ground, you know, six inches and I don't have to get on my hands and knees, pull it right back up and
Speaker B: toss my turner right in that. Yeah, no, you got to have a good set
Speaker A: of ground radials. Tell that to everybody on those. I mean, I don't know about the JPC 12, but I think it's the same company as shaling 7. So they only provide you with four radials. Four. So I've had way better success by taking one out and putting one in with like I have like three wires or four wires attached to, I think four wires attached to one of the banana plugs that slides into. So then that gives me like seven and plus I kind of count the feed line as 8 and I do way better with that.

Yep. I know lots of people like that. So I don't know. I have another friend that he doesn't even have. Well, he has a ham radio. He don't have a wife, he's an advanced, but he, he has some equipment but he doesn't turn that stuff on. He thinks we're all crazy. He's been a ham radio guy for, you know, probably 40 years or something. But you see news, his ticket. But you know, ever since cell phones he doesn't understand why you want to go backwards. So he doesn't understand that I've already done all that, talked all around the world, there's no point in it anymore and you know, I've had the best. They'll say I've had the best ham radio. He used to live in paradise in the paradise area for a lot of years. I used to hang my verticals from 150 foot trees up there off of Kibler Road and Nunley and stuff like that. Anyway, he used to have people come to him to fix his equipment and all that stuff. He just doesn't see why he would continue doing that. When cell phones, you can talk to anyone around the world, send pictures, techs, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but you never, I mean, you know, you never really talk to many people a lot, right? You do a lot of FT8. So I don't know. And like I did that this morning for I don't know, 45 minutes and got tired of it. I had like 19 contacts and I was, I didn't care who was contacting me back at that point, even though I was saying cqdx. I just wanted to see what I could get done in a matter of time. And I was mostly looking for dx, but I did get a few, couple of American ones that come back to me because they couldn't read, I guess. So I went ahead and gave them the report. But anyway, yeah, it's like watching paint dry almost sometimes watching things flick back to the screen and that's about it. I like it for a certain amount of time, but I couldn't do it for hours and hours and hours. Last night I went on JS8 because JS8 is a winter field day mode, you know. And I was putting out CQ for a half an hour. Nobody came back to me at all on 40 meters last night around 9 o' clock or something. So yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work. I mean people are. I got like 6 or 7 JS8 contacts on Winterfield Bay a few years ago but you just don't see hardly anyone on it right now. At least not on 40. Yeah, so it's kind of interesting. More people should use it. The tech driver uses it all the time. Those are the guys that came back to me. I went ahead and did an SNR to the tech prepper group and yeah like four of them came back to me. So they came back right away but nobody else really is doing much. Yeah, it's just like texting across the air, right? I mean back and forth on your keyboard kinda, you know, not a big deal. It's just as fast as FT8 but you can say a whole lot more stuff. But it has a practical purpose like storing forward. But people have got to use it. FT8 doesn't work that way so FT8 just, you know, here I am, here you are. Here's a signal report by right.

Speaker A: Okay. Well, yeah, I was going to ask. I was contemplating whether I should ask you about that or not, but I know that the garage group has bandpass filters anyway. Which ones are you looking at right now? I don't think you're going to get it by winter field day anyway, by the way. I mean, that's. You're only allowing yourself, you know, a few shipping
Speaker B: days. Unless you're getting it from Amazon. Yeah. Okay, so some
Speaker A: Chinese thing. What? Let me. Yeah, let me see here. I was gonna say I'm gonna turn on this other computer, but now I can do this one. Let me take a look
Speaker B: at it and see what it is. Yeah, but I just can't believe, like, you
Speaker A: know, you were watching the video, I think, on KV9DBR and talking about, like, this Morgan ones and all that. That seems like, you know, a couple weeks ago, and you still didn't order one of those, which is
Speaker B: quality,
Speaker A: you know,
Speaker B: buy once, cry once. Usually you do that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Let
Speaker A: me know what you see there. I'd be willing to go with you on a trip for sure. I've actually got something to return or swap out if they'll allow me to at this point.

Speaker A: You know what came up? I typed in. I typed in Band pass filter. First thing that comes up are stuff for meshtastics. 14 bucks the JMT band pass filters and it gives you SMA connectors.
Speaker B: Perfect. No Amazon.
Speaker A: I was wanting to try to find one that used to have was 40 bucks. I still haven't found it yet. All the ones that come up right away are seemingly. What do you call it for meshtastic? You know, I find that interesting. Yep, there's one here now that
Speaker B: Uzilic,
Speaker A: 200 watts. But it says $60, not 40. I
Speaker B: don't know if that's the. You have to be careful on the ones
Speaker A: I've seen so far that say for short wave. They don't say for transmit too. I do see TX
Speaker B: on it, so yeah, must be. What was the name of that
Speaker A: one on Amazon? H o o z I l I c showing
Speaker B: 60 bucks. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker A: it just sounds like a noise filter. I don't know. It might just have to do with cleaning up is the receive. You know, that's why you have to be kind of careful. Anyway Palomar, that's quality stuff. Whatever it is, make sure it's for transit. Also guessing it'd be about three times the money.

Speaker A: So what was the one on Amazon? Is it the same one I'm looking at here, but they only show two. Two ones for 15 meters
Speaker B: and ones for 40 meters. 21 MHz is 15 met. Okay, so I am looking at the right one, but, yeah, you said something like 40 bucks, and I'm seeing 60, so. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so 60
Speaker A: bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Not sure, but I think I'd rather want the. Those Morgan ones. I think they were 20 bucks more or something at the time. Things might have changed now.

Speaker A: Yeah,
Speaker B: I agree with you. Actually I don't know about dx, I'm still going to buy from them. I haven't anyway, but I know they have good stuff over at DX Engineering so But yeah, I've always bought from main trading and R L didn't have any troubles with equipment but when it comes to little things like you're talking about hro giga parts, that kind of thing you can get from the other ones too
Speaker A: but know same price generally, why wait? It's going to be a couple minutes. But yeah, I'm
Speaker B: going to be back here in just a couple minutes getting another cup fresh cup of coffee and use the restroom there. So but I'd like to continue this on the bandpass filter because I think I'd like to get one too and I'd want to work it out with you where I have a different one than you do. KN6MGK.

Well, I did a myriad of things. Even boosted the thermostat up since it was 63 degrees. I decided to put to 65. Got me another fresh cup of coffee and got the hot water going for my wife's tea. So, yeah, should be okay for a few minutes. How you doing out there? Jay K and 6 MGK.

Yeah, I know you're not gonna like what I had to say, but I did text you the the ones with the Morgans. Price looks the same. 80 bucks for the legacy models. I know the garnish group bought the high performance ones. I'm thinking even the legacy ones might be okay. I don't know. But they're more known that KB9VBR put his stamp of approval on them. So. So I think like, you know, I think I'd at least go that way, but maybe it can be found elsewhere, I don't know.

Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The other guy I like a lot is chat radio. Chat radio. He's a great guy. I purchased from him before too. I don't know if he had any band pass filters, it would be up his alley, but I doubt it.
Speaker B: Comment?
Speaker A: Hey, Jeremy, thank you very much. Yeah, I think you probably like these Morgans, right? Absolutely.
Speaker B: And they're a lot less money. The website is kilofoxtrot7papa.com, kilo foxtrot7papa calm.
Speaker A: Yeah, I've got that website up right now. Yeah, but I've also seen him on that search stop or whatever. But is that where Gars ended up buying them from him?
Speaker B: Yeah, but you want to go up to the $150 ones. You don't want to buy the 91?
Speaker A: Yeah. Why do you think that's the case?
Speaker B: Well, I think they say that the higher dollar ones are better with electronic receivers.
Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I seen that in the description about. For their computer. What do you call it? Optimized? Yeah. I don't know. But I know Jay likes a lot of FT8, so digital is going to be real important.
Speaker B: I would go with the Morgan. I think they're good, I think for the money because he was talking 2 or $300 and I think what DX Engineering sells might be the Morgans or they might sell another brand. But I think the Morgans are just fine.
Speaker A: Yeah, it's an investment, you know, I mean, it's rough to get clubs to do stuff like that. That's why I know with Gars, they did it a certain way, but it's like nobody has real ownership of them. So now they just sit around and not be used when there's people going out. So that's kind of the way it goes. And then they get used like at this point sounds like twice a year, right. Winter field day, summer field day.
Speaker B: I can always go get them and take them out to an event or use them if I want. I have that access, but I just haven't. I haven't been doing anything with groups.
Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Now Chris over here. Jht last part of his call, officers start getting off. Look at the last name. But anyway, I just wanted to make sure it's not. Chris said that I'm talking about. Anyway, he bought a set of the ham. Ham. What do you call that? The like the Loomis ham fest. Anyway, and I think they're Chinese ones, but it was a whole set. He paid like 80 bucks for the whole set and he took them out. One time I was with them, and they worked just fine. He and I were using them fine. But anyway, they thought they weren't the quality of the ones, you know. And that's not the only investment, right, Jeremy? After you do that, you guys made up a bunch of jumpers, too, for each one, right?
Speaker B: You gotta have jumpers. Obi bought all those out of his pocket. It was kind of a group effort.
Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Yep. Anyway, they worked well, but, yeah, it's a heck of an investment, for sure. I mean, you can buy some cheap Chinese radios for around 200 bucks nowadays.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, these here, for the money, I think, are the best. And I just. I heard you guys talking about. I'm sending Jay a link right now. Good morning.
Speaker A: Yeah, there was one on Amazon for 60 bucks for 15 meters. And for 40 meters, it's made. It's a company called Huizi. I can't pronounce it. I don't know. Anyway, that must be a pile of junk, I bet. You know, it's just a thought. Like one of those that'll blow up. You can't fix it. So one of these things about the Morgans, you know, if you did blow out a capacitor, I bet you could change it relatively easily.
Speaker B: You also send them in for repair, right?
Speaker A: Yeah, that's what's positive about them, potentially. But, you know, can you send anything from MFJ in for repair at this point?
Speaker B: Probably not, right? You're gonna find somebody that can work on it?
Speaker A: Basically, yeah. That's what I'm trying to say about these. I mean, I don't know the history of the company and all that. You know, what if the guy sells out or SK or whatever, you know, it might be done just like what happened. I mean, it happened. There's this one German guy who makes CW keys. Kind of like those little modern Morse ones, but a little tinier. And Chris said, has one or two of them anyway. And I was like, yeah, I'm hot to get one of those. And they were like 200 bucks. I mean, they weren't cheap. And the guy, he wasn't even all that old, had a massive heart attack or stroke and died. That was the end of it. So people just. If they go up on qrz, you know, even for more money, people just jump all over the top of those keys just to find them. They're so good for portable.
Speaker B: Just remember, you get what you pay for. You buy Chinese junk and you have just that, right?
Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But, you know, I know Jay likes quality, but it is tough. It Is tough. He's frugal too, just like me or whatever. It's hard to want us to open up the old pocketbook sometimes.
Speaker B: If you could get the members of the club to donate the amount for one or something works pretty good. And it's really easy to. Real easy to want to jump off on those $80 ones. But you know, Tyler and I did quite a bit of research.
Speaker A: What Winterfield Day software are you thinking the club's going to use down there? Is it that, what is it something adept JP or whatever? That guy where you pay like nine bucks?
Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know, you know, but I think our club's probably going to wind up being dissolved.
Speaker A: Yeah, but I was asking about the software. So you don't know if they're going to use that software again?
Speaker B: Oh, we're using it this year. Right. In three fjp.
Speaker A: Yeah, that's the guy. So it's probably best if I just buy it. Right? Because you know, I'm thinking that in fact some of the guys, like the guy in Mineral there, John, he won that software like a package where he gets it all. I think it's probably like $50 value or something like that. Or if you. They just gave it to him because he wanted the raffle. So he has all the softwares and he paid like $50 or gave it to them. So it might be the way to go. Because I've done other contests where you know, they've got the nice template that works really good for that.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, that software is not all that expensive. I think you can buy a subscription for $50. So that's a lifetime one time subscription.
Speaker A: Right. That's what I mean. I think that's what they gave John and Mineral. And of course he doesn't really do any contesting and stuff, but the only ones I'm interested in are winter field day, Summer field day and the CQ worldwide ones are fun and maybe there's a couple more out there for CW, but that's it. I end up spending the same $50 by buying like three or four of the softwares. So you may as well just get the whole thing. Right.
Speaker B: Exactly right. Upgrade to package is $59.99 and then it's done. Right. If you buy one, it's probably 20 or $25.
Speaker A: Yeah. Now the other option I've heard is coming up strong is that, is it like World Relay League or something like that? And they have software. I don't know if they're doing it like that. N3FJP is doing it like where it separates it out and all that. Real important too because like for cw, you sometimes need a spot, a little slot for the station license year. And you know how it is on field days where you have the class and section, you know, and then it has that separation out where it tracks for you which ones you've gotten and all that. It's pretty cool. I like that. Anyway.
Speaker B: Exactly. Well, I'm gonna back out of here. I just wanted to throw in my two cents. I heard Jay talking about spend over $200 a filter.
Speaker A: Yeah, no problem. Yep. I'll probably. I'm thinking the wife might. She's either wanting to head out that way or towards Oroville. I don't know, later today. So in case you're around, but probably pretty slam and busy for you. KN6MGK.
Speaker B: Yeah. Girlfriend's up this weekend, so no radio.
Speaker A: Copy that. All right, KN6MGK.
Speaker B: All right, Steve. 7373J W6LND.

Speaker A: You better go on
Speaker B: Morgan's website, read all they have to say about them. Tyler and I did. We spent a lot of time on
Speaker A: it. All
Speaker B: right, you guys have a
Speaker A: good day. Yeah. I've got Chris texting me now, so hopefully he'll get back to me with the band filters name that he has. He has the 80, 40, 20, 15 and 10 what he's got, so. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he bought it like his kit or something like that. But they are Chinese. I don't know. But they did work together. We used them.

Speaker A: Yeah but every time
Speaker B: I come across
Speaker A: something like this, I mean like, you know, the thought of doing it. Yeah. I mean talk about, you know, 100 and say yeah get the 20 meter 140 bucks. I'm sure there's probably shipping on it so I just, I'm not willing to spend that kind of money at the moment but other people probably would. I'm sure. I'm sure
Speaker B: there's shipping and I'm guessing they'll be. Yeah Jeremy was telling you. Yeah that's what we had. Yeah
Speaker A: the Morgans the high the ones that cost 140 bucks a piece but I don't know right now on the website it's not showing that it's I put one in my cart and it's. It's saying total 140 bucks check when you go to check out maybe it'll be something to do that but hopefully what your PayPal account. Okay so anyway but yeah that's, that's
Speaker B: the ones
Speaker A: the high performance band pass filters for Morgan.

Well, later this afternoon. I got work around the house to do. Warms up just a bit, but. Yeah. So Chris just texted me back. Industrial communication engineers limited. So I'll have to look that up.

Yeah. Reason that the gentleman died. She's SK W9S U owner of industrial communication engineers. Well, I'm curious.

Think of getting that shadow.

And 6 wip and 6 mgm. Oh, I didn't have any volume. Now, I got this all set up if you want to look at it.

Speaker A: Roger. No big deal. Yeah, anytime. Anytime you get an inkling, get a hold of me. We're here all day. You don't need it. You can come anytime you want. You don't even need to tell me. And 6 NTM. I'm back
Speaker B: to the big screen. That's the plan.