2m Simplex (146.520 MHz) recordings for 2026-03-06

Well, Bob, what are you up to? Seeming like I may not have a net, but we'll see. Anyway, how have you been?

Speaker A: Well, I don't know. I usually come up with it in the mornings when I decide to wake up, but a lot of times I make my way over in the mornings over to Chico Panera, have a cup of tea over there. I'm a member of the sip club, kind of. So I'll have tea or coffee. And if you don't. I don't know if you know Pat, you. I know you've met Pat before, but sometimes he shows up there too. We talk about the kind of stuff that you and I would probably talk about. You'd have to be prepared to stick around for a couple hours. Yeah, but. Yeah, I said I'd get in touch with you, but I still haven't been pretty busy right now with some things. But anyway, Mesh Networks is pretty interesting. We were working on. It's not just me, but it's not my project. It's a project, I would say a project that at least the Paradise Club has really taken up and have been working on it there on Mesh Core. Now one of the other guys is building something. I built a small node here and I just received some parts for another solar node I'm working on. But anyway, let me take a break in case Jim's there.
Speaker B: Can 6 MGK. Okay? Yeah, Nothing hurts. So.
Speaker A: Yeah, I just wanted to be sure. Not stepping on him in case he's wanting to come in and do the net, but any event. Yeah. So, you know, a lot of things just depends on what a guy's really wanting to do and what they expect. So. Probably need to sit down and write you a good email. You can still read. I know your eyes have some trouble. You could. You can still read emails. Okay. Right.

Yeah, it could be. That could be. And you know that St. John Mountain, there's already a node up there, but it's not programmed correctly. So I think the owner of that node going to be making changes probably. Well, probably in the not too, too distant future. So that'll make a difference too, when it comes to mesh networking. Yeah, it's every. Everything that you possibly can get helps for sure. And yeah, if you've got that great path into the Sutter Buttes, I know they have a good node there. I think Jeremy's getting traffic from that, so you definitely get traffic into there. And so it would help push it around, that's for sure. So. But what's most important about it is for intel gathering, where they get information, especially out of the Bay Area and stuff like that seems to be getting passed on it all the time. And some of it doesn't make sense because they're not hams. They're just talking back and forth like they're brothers and sisters. So you have to try to follow the conversation. Sometimes some of them don't make sense because you might not get all the traffic, I don't know. But when something happens like say an earthquake or whatever, someone usually announces it there. You get that information pretty quick.

Yeah, give it a break there. Yeah, I heard about that this morning. The local news carried it and talked about it being down there by Willows or something. Anyway, yeah, I put up, you know, I was cutting the cable and I got rid of DirecTV and I put up one of those little antennas and been pretty impressed with that for local channels. I get about 40 channels this year in the valley floor with that stupid little $45 antenna that come from Amazon.

Yeah, you probably got a little bit of knife edge going on there on that last one. But anyway, I still copied everything you said anyway. Yeah, pretty interesting. What I wanted to make a comment to. When you mentioned Newsmax, that happens to be one of the channels I get on the free antenna. It's Newsmax 2, that's what it says there. But anyway, it's I think essentially the same people that were on Newsmax. You know, I don't know, maybe, maybe some of them are the new people that they're getting on board. I don't know. But I mean I was watching Greg Kelly yesterday, so I think he's one of the guys that's on Newsmax. So if they're showing, you know, anything like the State of the Union, whatever, they were showing it on there. So 24 hours a day. So it's free, right? You know. Well, free. As free as an antenna. You can buy 45 bucks. Anyway, we're hands, we're supposed to like antennas. All I did was take the Dish network, sorry, the DirecTV dish off and I stuck like a four foot pole in the part that was mounted on my roof and attached this antenna to yet put a screw through that pole and hook the coax. The same coax that the same feed line that fed the DirecTV is feeding my antenna. It just back feeds my whole house. So I find that pretty interesting.

Speaker A: I don't know. I'd have to look, I don't got time to. That's the one thing that I miss, by the way, is I used, you know, the Rack tv had a dvr. So any program I wanted to see if it was Jesse Waters or whatever, I would just hit the button, record, record every episode and I could come home and it could be 10 o' clock at night and I could toss on and see the whole episode of that show. Dvr, record the whole thing. And that was nice. No commercials. I could just skip through the commercials. That was nice. So, yeah, when you have. This is like going back to old school where you would have to know what time the program is on and so forth, right?
Speaker B: I don't have time to do that. I'm doing things. Well, I don't know. I think I just need to turn on my computer
Speaker A: and send you a link or something. Or do you do cell phones? Maybe we should start trading information that way because that's much easier. Send links across the cell phone so fast.

Well, you didn't say. At least I didn't hear it. If it's an 80 to 10, or is it the 40 to 10?

Speaker A: Any chance. Did you receive a text? Bob? Okay, yeah. Okay, well, then I'll plug
Speaker B: it. I'll plug it in and then I can send you a link that way. Yep. Some people are using that app called Signal. Have you been using that at all?

Yeah, but you already have the phone, so you're gonna. You're gonna die like the rest of us unless you keep it in your Faraday bag most of the time. I don't know. Yeah, I'm not really concerned. Concerned about that too much. I just want to go down with a fight, that's all.

Yeah, but the same thing could happen if you just turn it off, right? I mean, when you turn it back on, it'll give you all the. All the text, too, so I don't know if I trust all that. Yeah. And then what? It reminds me of Bob. And don't get mad at me, but the maskers, you know, like, I keep seeing them. You know, sometimes they'll wear their mask, and then they. Then they go and they want to talk to their friend across the T, and they're drinking coffee, and they bring it down below their mouth, and they talk to them for 10 minutes and they put it all back on. Just saw that the other day. I thought we were over all that. Anyway, so. Yeah, once you pull it out of your Faraday bag, then a missile can be dropped on you.

Yeah, I was talking for about an hour, and the guy in Costco, we were in the gardening stuff, and I was talking to him, and he's up in Magalia and he's a nurse, you know, and they were trying to force him to have the clot shots and wear masks and stuff like that. He kept telling them no the whole time, and then they would fit him up for a mask, and he has a little beard, and every time they fit them up for their stupid mask, they never sealed properly and stuff like that. But anyway, he was able to skate by all that stuff, fortunately for him, so he didn't have to partake, but he did have to do the testing, you know, every couple of days or whatever. And he said that he barely would put the thing in his nose at all, you know, and they didn't really seem to care too much. But you come to find out, if you do some reading on that, that a lot of the tests and stuff like that have the nanoparticles and stuff like that, the graphenes and all that, right on the testing swabs.

Oh, boy. I must have got you riled up. Yeah, well, anyway. Yep. And these are the people that were running our country for four years. Hey, best thing about the whole Covid thing was we have, like, two years of no flus, but once, of course, there's, like, this year, there's no coat. There's no Covid that I've been hearing at all. But people are getting really deathly ill of the flu now again.

Well let me guess you're still operating a computer with Microsoft on it I haven't operated a Microsoft one other than for work or somebody else or my wife who refuses to want to change a Microsoft system. I run all Linux operating systems but anyway at the very least would buy an apple. 2004 was the day that I divorced I knew he was all mixed up into I felt like at the time computer viruses and he would come up with the solutions of course I'm like there's some conspiracy thing going on here and he comes up with the viruses and then he sells you the solution. The same thing with COVID You know he was probably involved in all that too so just like the AIDS and then now you find out he's one of the biggest Epstein guys you know he didn't even want to admit all the stuff he's done with Epstein so you know he's a freak. So I don't support bill gates at all KN6MGK.

Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, I think for what you do mostly, it wouldn't be that difficult because it's all the same things like Google Chrome or something like that. The Chrome browser is. The Chrome browser doesn't matter what operating system it's on. So, yeah, it just starts off with a clean desktop. That's the problem. You're used to having a whole bunch of stuff all over your desktop, like these app sorties, shortcuts to open up programs. Instead, you just have a black screen, essentially when you start off. And you have to add all that stuff, too. You get to add what you want to it. You know, it's kind of like you get to eat the food you want to eat. You don't just get served a buffet. All right, you probably can't copy me. I'll text you. 73kn6MGK.

Well, I kind of already cleared so. Seven three Bob, KN six mgk. Yeah, I was, I was leaving. Good breaks. But hey, I'll check you in there. Jeremy. I don't have any papers. But you're checked in and the points don't matter. Yeah, I guess there's another one. Kilo, nine Kilo, Alpha Delta, I guess. I don't think I caught his name maybe. I think he spoke before. His name may be Mark or something. He had a, an off center fed dipole for sale. Palomar. He know it's pretty good. But anyway, I know you don't want nothing like that. Yeah, I went over to Yankee Hill in about, I'm going to say almost 3 o' clock after I was eating my lunch there. I pushed the button a few times too and I should have gotten in from there as I was getting into system 36 good. So I can't imagine why I wouldn't have. So I figured at that point I gave it two or three hits and then I go, okay, I bet you something went down or we're just having bad VHF propagation. That was my thoughts and then I put it away. So yeah, I thought something like that might have happened. Was it after three o' clock or before? Okay, well, yes, I wasn't, I didn't feel like I was getting in at all. So. Yeah, okay, well we just. I just think something's going on. Could be propagation just like with Bob and me. I was hearing him good one time and then one time it would just be okay. And he kind of reiterated the same thing. Yeah, I don't know, I think it'd be more like the commies, you know, Heck, Governor Newsom and the Chinese are in bed with each other. So he had just given the frequency. Yeah, one of my other buddies was talking about how North Korea was threatening that they might get involved and I should be concerned. And I'm like, I'm not concerned about little Rocket Man. Yeah, they're not going to be able to do very much without any oil. We don't need no oil. I mean it's nice to have that on the global market. But we don't need the oil. They do. No, but some of our other friends need it too. Like India. India is kind of a quasi friend. Yeah, that's probably a better word for it. Yeah, so. And I like them better than I like a lot of others, but still, I mean they're two faced. They're just not as two faced as Turkey is. Yeah, they got some of our nukes there. So that's interesting. That's a free for all. Yeah, well, go ahead, Bob. We're listening attentively. We're just trying to leave some gaps out here, so go for it.

But to round it up. Don't forget we live in California, where we haven't built a refinery in, like, 50 years.

Speaker A: Yeah, but both those places have cute
Speaker B: girls. Doesn't that count for
Speaker A: anything? Of course. Yeah. The Persians, they could be really pretty, too. Yeah. No comment from Bob, I guess, on that one. No, it's the Middle East, Jeremy. It could be a quagmire. If we wanted to, we could be involved there for 20 years. Yeah,
Speaker B: I mean, they've already
Speaker A: hunkered in
Speaker B: their ant colonies. Come on. That's why I get a kick out of them saying, oh, they're only putting out, like, 20% of the missiles they were sending out. Well, because they've already dug themselves in. I mean, they crawled back in and closed the
Speaker A: door,
Speaker B: and they're waiting to come out and fire one here or there and just, you know, drag you down. And it's costing us, you know, probably. I think it was $9 billion a day or something like that. So the Straits shut down. They don't have to do anything to shut the strait down. Insurance companies don't want to provide insurance. So. So, and then even if we say we're going to escort him in and all that kind of stuff, all the captives of the ships are like, well, hey, I don't think I
Speaker A: want to
Speaker B: risk it.

Speaker A: They're working on Canada, too. Canada was already in bad shape. But they're making it worse for them. In
Speaker B: here. What you have to do is you have to take your guns, you have to repaint them, you have to disassemble them. Drill a couple holes in the end of the barrel. They call it a compensator. Take off your little handle in the front and put some masking tape on it, and then it's legal.

Speaker A: Yeah. Well, down in Canada, they let this stuff happen to themselves. Like, you know, if one of. If they have a farm of birds, like those emus, ostriches, whatever, and one of them's got the bird flu, you know, you don't want to kill off all your animals, well, they'll come in with the SWAT team in the middle of the night and night vision
Speaker B: and shoot them all for you. Yeah. I was deemed safe the other day
Speaker A: of any protest, violence, because they have. They've had them, like, on the weekends here. I guess it's kind of quit now, but protest on Saturdays anyway, because I never show up. So I'm pretty safe from ever being, like, driven over by ice
Speaker B: or anything like that. I guess I'll say no.

Okay, well, yeah, I knew it couldn't have been football because that would have been too simple of an answer. But, yeah, anyway, anyway, I'm skeptical on all these wars, depending on how you figure it out. Yeah, we have massive power in America, but we're like 6,000 miles away. So logistics wins wars. So anything that we do in the Middle east like that is just going to be some sort of a quagmire. That's what I think. So you got to have clear objectives, and that is one thing I don't know that we have a real clear objective. They just don't want to release it. We just want to really screw them up over there so they can't do nothing for a decade anyway. So otherwise it involves boots on the ground and then, you know, going house to house to eradicate the regime, you know, then how are you ever going to get the trust of the people to want to like you if you're in there killing their brothers and stuff? Right. So I don't know. Trump's got to find a way, and if anyone can do it, he can, to save face and to leave with a win.

Yeah, well, a lot of the guys I was following podcasts and stuff, they get shadow banned and so I might have a hundred subscriptions on on different podcast people, but some of the ones of old kind of goes by the wayside. Anyway, I never did see his before. I do typically watch a lot of the ham radio podcasters out there for YouTube and stuff, but anyway, I have my certain ones I like. Anyway, sounds good. Well, I think I'm gonna go ahead and head out of here. Get me. I've got kind of cotton out there and. Good thing. Can't handle talking too much like I used to. So. Anyway, all right, I'll say 73 around the around the horn there. W6LMD and KC6UIS. This is KN6MGK.

Yeah, he probably had enough wine though, already. Bob73jn6mtk.

Well, good morning. Hope everyone's having a peaceable day. Can 6 MGK? Well, hey, there he is. Good morning to you. What are you up to?

So. Yeah. Hey. Go. Be careful. Let's make sure we let everyone know we're talking about meshtastic or some sort of a mesh radio node that needs firmware. When he's talking about flashing his unit, that's what he's talking about.

Yeah, we just wanted to clarify. Having a little fun this morning? Hey. Yeah. So, yeah, not recognizing. I mean, that's just a Helltech board. Like, I have, you know, the. The board itself. Right? Like they call it $25. You know, basic board, right? No screen and using your Mac, or are you using a Windows or what?

Speaker A: Okay, So I. I know I'm gonna play the technician, you know, like as if I was a service writer or whatever, going back to the basics. So anyway, did you put it in dfu?
Speaker B: Well,
Speaker A: when you first plug it in, it may have. You know, when you first plug it in with good power, it should have had some sort of an LED light, right? Like, it might have been white, but that would signify that it had some power going to it, right?

Okay, yeah, but. So to get into DFU mode, you got to put like. Okay, if you're looking at the board, you'll see one button on the right and one button on the left. Right. I'm gonna confuse you now. So you stand at the board, and the buttons are in front of you, and they're at the bottom. You know, on the right side there's a button, and on the left side there's a button. So the left side button is the kind of the restart, you know, button where, like, if it had the firmware on it and you tap that, it'll restart the screen and, you know, all that kind of stuff. If there was one. But the right one is like the. I think they call it the restart button or restart button, reset button, maybe. I have to look up the terminology they call it. But that's the one that you. You've got to like. I think you got to tap it. So you're going to hold that one, and then you hold both of them. Basically, you hold both buttons in and then wait for a few seconds, and then you release the left button, and that puts it in DFU mode, right?

Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we're on the same page. I just had turned it 90. In my mind, I'm turning it 90 degrees because I'm facing the board, you know, dead on, like, lengthwise. The top part is the non button side and the buttons are the bottom. So just rotates at 90 degrees. So this is just being clarified that essentially you're putting it in DFU mode, because what you're describing to me sounds to me like your computer doesn't even know that you're wanting to do a firmware upgrade. I mean, the board doesn't know, and so it doesn't tell the computer to try it. You know, if you do, like I said, I think you push both buttons in, you know, hold them down for like, say, five seconds, and then you let go of the one. In your case, the way you describe it, the. It would be the.
Speaker B: Yeah, you let go of the lower one. Yeah, you would. Yeah, you would let go of the restart button.

And of course, I was assuming, probably shouldn't have, but that it's all plugged in, you know, to your, to your, what do you call it? To your, to your Windows computer. You should be able to see, you know, if you have the right screen up on your Windows computer to observe the com ports, you know, that it'll come on, you know, when it recognizes it either and tell you which serial port it's on or it'll turn off if it's just not recognizing it.

Well, can you observe it? Come on and off of the com port. I know you know how to do that. I may not be able to describe it in Windows very well, but, you know. So you unplug your cable, you know, plug it in and it should reappear.

Okay, well, I went and got out mine, in case you're still there. This is KN6MGK. Went out and got mine and plugged it in, you know, from essentially a no, no light mode, plugged into my USB data cable and nothing shows up in my com ports. Then I was able to just top push the top button one time, in and out, and immediately it showed up. Yeah, and then let me see if I'll push it again here, see if it goes away. A long press it may be. Anyway, so that's the first sign that definitely it's being recognized by the computer.

Okay, so you mean on your. On your. When you say display, I mean you have no display on the health tech board. So we're talking about you haven't never seen it come up in your computer. Right. Okay, so then I'm mistaken and you don't have what I have. You have one with a OLED on the Heltech and I don't on this one. So. Okay, so. Yeah, just. Just making sure. Okay, well, then, I don't know. I'm trying. I was under the wrong impression, but I don't think that should change anything. But if it's not, I mean, if you plug it in, I mean, from the factory, I mean, usually the screen would come on in some way. Let me just think. I mean, maybe they didn't put no firmware in it at all, I guess, which is one thing, but it just seems like the ones that we, at least when we ordered them, you know, with the complete kit, when we plugged them in, they had something on them. So I'm guessing maybe methodology did that. So still should be the same thing. Anyway, if you have the right cable, I'm going to bring mine with me just in case. But anyway, your computer should recognize it, you know, if you hit those buttons just right. Whatever it takes to enter that DFU mode, before you even try to put any firmware in, you need to make sure that your computer is recognizing it. And I think that's where the issue still stems. Now, of course, you could have a bad unit or something too, but try to go down the other aisle first. KN6MGK. Yeah, and see, when I. When I tap the bottom one, it shifts from com 34 to comm 30. And so, yeah, I mean, I know it's being recognized by the computer at least, but anyway, and one of those will have the. Probably in this mode. It's the DFU mode. So anyway. And then usually if you're in the DFU mode, the auto detect would work on that flasher too. Make sure you're using the Chrome browser, too. The Chrome browser. Anyway. No, I can't really afford going to breakfast this morning, so. But I'll be at the Starbucks maybe early. I know that I had some expectations, you know, because of Ann's unit and so forth. So I'm bringing my cables and stuff like that, and my computer anyway, in case I want to try to get her wish Mesh thing going. So just try to cover the bases there. Plus, if Robert makes it, I owe him some money, so I need to take care of that. So anyway, Like I say, it might be early up there, but. But I'm not going to go to practice. KN6NGK.

Speaker A: Well, the only mistake I've ever seen is I know a person can put in the charging lead in wrong or something. You know, I've heard of that happening. I had a mistake here with mine one time that wasn't reversing the polarity. At least my red lead's on the left and the black lead is on the right. That's connected into the right terminal on the board if you're looking at
Speaker B: it with USB C down. Yeah. So I mean, I don't know that it
Speaker A: matters to be honest. You know, it could be another one too. I've never wanted to try it. I just was following directions. But one of them is for solar. But I bet you on the board they're probably connected or something like that would venture a guess some in some fashion they're in parallel or something and probably wouldn't matter if you switched them. So I don't know. Yeah. So as long as you got, you know, your roughly 4 volts to it then I mean, you say you're getting a light, so that's positive as far as I'm concerned that it's got power going to it.

Speaker A: Yeah, that's kind of why I avoided that question about power. Because when you said you had a flashing light or whatever, that generally just means to me that, you know, that essentially, you know, it's got power going to it. So. Yeah, the only thing I can think of is just your computer or cable or whatever is not recognizing the DFU mode or not NDFU mode or whatever. So, yeah, if you can't figure it out, then, yeah, I'll bring my stuff up and let's hope that one of us can figure it out
Speaker B: anyway
Speaker A: and get it flashed.
Speaker B: That'd be cool. Alrighty. I'm gonna go wake
Speaker A: up the wife and get her going. I plan on leaving here around an hour from. So I might stop off at Panera first, though. We'll see. Get me a cup of tea or something to get me going. KN6MGK Good morning. Good morning, Jay. See? Definitely see you later.

I heard life and 6 ntm. Yeah, it was excellent, excellent, excellent. A lot of, lot of emotions. Well, amongst the, the top couple of people, you know, especially amongst the girls, you know, I mean it's, it's not like the relationship is over or anything like that, but you know, some people are just ready to retire, time for the next phase, you know. But yeah, there was, there was a lot of emotion there. Talking about old times. They put up about a hundred pictures of, you know, on a, on a carousel style digital deal there. So there was a lot of reminders of times passed and yeah, I seen her, her mom tear up a couple of, a couple of times and yeah, it was pretty cool. Anyway, kind of hard to explain but I know, you know, I don't know how many employees you guys had around, but you know, anybody that lasts more than five or 10 years, I knew, I knew John was going to show up, that we had breakfast with and his girlfriend. They fit right in at the table they sat at. Every time I looked over there, there were busting up, laughing pretty hard. Of course Chewy, one of the workers there, he's caught a conversationalist. So anyway, all in all the salmon was good, the food was good in general. I don't know what they did. I never had a, I never had a prime rib that didn't have any flavor, but that one was it. They must have marinated it in water, fish bowl water or something, I don't know. May have a little bit of flavor, but yeah, anyway, yeah, it was great. Lori got up and talked about the parts of the association there that the camaraderie and the family feelings. I noticed that about that company early on. They interacted well together, somehow maintained that over the years. And of course a lot of thanks was given from the guy who started the company. She's renowned in her trustability, Both feet with her heart in the business, it was pretty good. Of course the guy that took over for the guy who started the company, he didn't much care for her at first, but she got a lot of hugs anyway. I'm sure you get the picture. He grew to appreciate her and realize what she was worth and that was the feeling of most of the people there. So, yep, her cup brim is over. So what do you got going today?

Speaker A: Going to put up a separate base antenna area. I get it. You don't have to see that.
Speaker B: And that Craftsman. That Craftsman stud finder doesn't find studs. Maybe it's the paint here or. But yeah, I did the two fresh board tests thinking it may be something in the modern paint or whatever, but you could put a fresh 2x4 underneath a stud. Fresh R111. And it does. It doesn't detect the 2x4 underneath it. Not sure what's going on there. Maybe it all the walls are sheetrock here. I. I think that was just a Jew thing. But anyway, it went up easy enough, but enough wood would took all the worry about drilling holes or splitting beams.
Speaker A: You'll like it.
Speaker B: It's authentic theater cinema.

Yeah, well, auto walls are pretty clear here. 2 by 6 by 6 beam over 1 side and then they. Then they stepped it up. So the vertical studs stopped at the 6 by 6. At 8ft the ceiling took over on the other half over the archway. It switched to taller studs that go up into the attic and are cased with a 2x4 on top. Not a load bearing finish of the wall. So there wasn't. No, there wasn't anything to tie into. Up in the ceiling where the sheetrock met. We got some of my real smallest bits that had some length 4 or 5 inches and did a couple tests or holes even on angles and midair for the last six feet over to the next wall. But they came out. It looks, looks uniform. It's plenty strong, so it's all right. We had to put one little L bracket in which we put behind the two by six. So it just comes down and goes over. You'd have to go up there and actually be looking for it to see it. So no big deal. You'll see it eventually, whenever you feel like it. Shoot. You interacted enough with Trevor. You should have felt welcome. Anyway, Yeah, they're going home today. They're going up to Reno to spend the night. Oh yeah, that was another one. You get a kick out of that. I was telling Lauria I was trying to get her to go there yesterday, but of course then we had company, so. But that there's a big wedding shot she showed me. It was probably 100ft, maybe even a little more of wedding dresses hanging along one wall. I told her we should stop in there. Probably freak those people out if we pick one out that fits me and I go in the dressing room and put it on, get some pictures. I would give. Give Trevor's better half quite the laugh. But of course we never did it. I think that kind of thing is acceptable in America today. And 200 layers of skin smoother. Oh, brother. All right, well, I got coffee waiting. I tied up the frequency long enough. N6 NTM glory didn't bring back any firewood. I guess we're going to use the regular heater this morning. Well, me and Lori did last Sunday. Came up after church and they were out of them. I was bummed.

Hey, hey, hey. Let's try to act like people. That's right. Gather up your sandwiches and your beer and sit down and be quiet. Not really that long. It could have been longer and it had been all right with me. Yeah, well, you know that ain't true because here I am, I keyed up back to you. Yeah, definitely within the last two weeks. So you know Jay out here, don't you? And you know his brother Blake wiq, although IQ has not much to do with it. So, you know, I, I bought Jay's brother Blake, I, he wanted to buy one of my bulls here to service his cows. Yeah, you know what cows and bulls are? They mate and have little cows. So anyway, I sold them one of my bulls and he, after about a week went by, he called me up and he goes, I'm afraid to mate this bull with my cows because it looks like it's cross sided and I won't be able to sell the cows. And I told him, well, let me come over and get a look at it. I loaded up my four foot tube, you know, clear air tube, and I went over there and sure enough, that cow was, that bull was, was cross sided. So I, I put the, I put the tube in the back of the bull without getting too explicit, and I told him, go around the front and watch the bull's eyes and let me know if they uncross. And I blew in the tube and Blake goes, that's it, that's it. Yeah, his eyes straightened right up. So I went back around the front and we were keeping an eye on it and make sure it didn't just go back, you know. And after about five minutes or so, I was getting tired of hanging out with Blake anyway, but it looked like they were starting to cross up again. I told him, this time you go around the back and blowing that tube. Let me see how the eyes reacted. He went back there and I seen him sliding the tube out of the bowl. And I go, no, no, you gotta blow in it first. And he goes, well, you don't think I'm gonna put my mouth on the end? You add in your mouth. Blake's kind of funny that way. All right, that's all I got for you. N6 NTM.