Transcriptions for 2026-01-11

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Here's holds a free Morse code class every Wednesday night, 6pM at the Golden Beaver Distillery still house at 2420 Park Avenue. All are welcome to come learn Morse code W6R, H, C repeater check 2.

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Speaker A: Repeated. Something about Grass Valley. Is that correct?
Speaker B: Okay. Pretty chilly here in the Bay Area. Got pretty high up here. Up here? Auburn, right. So I haven't heard you in the. I think I went through there in the summer sometime.
Speaker A: Dropped off that time.
Speaker B: Okay, we'll see.

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The year's monthly general membership meetings are held on the third Monday night of the month at the Butte County Public Library, 1108 Sherman Avenue in Chico. Doors open at 6pm and the meeting starts at 7pm all are welcome. W Fix RHC Repeater Check 1.

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This is KM7DAL monitoring on this fine, frigid evening. If anybody happens to be out there.

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The Gears Net will be held Tuesday night starting at 7:30pm all amateur radio operators are welcome to join in on the net W6 RHC repeater check 2.

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Gears holds a slow speed Morse code mat on 40 meters every Thursday night starting at 7pm Frequency of 744 plus or minus if the frequency is in use. All licensed amateur radio operators are welcome to join in the net W6 RHC repeater check 3.

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Amateur Radio Newsline Report number 2515 with a release date of Friday, January 9, 2026 to follow in 5 4, 3, 2 1. The following is a QST the FCC bans the sale of foreign made drones in the U.S. montenegro launches its first satellite and an HF net to take care of family caregivers. All this and more as Amateur Radio Newsline Report number 2515 comes your way right now from around the world. This is Newsline, Amateur Radio's Independent on the Air News and Bulletin Service. Now reporting from Union, Kentucky, here's Neil Rath, WB9VPG. Our top story is of particular interest to drone users. A ban on imports into the US now means that only American made drones with American American made parts may be sold here. Kent Petersen, KC0DGY picks up the story from here. The import and sales of foreign made drones and components are now banned in the US following action by the Federal Communications Commission citing the potential of national security risks. The agency's move follows an executive order from the White House in June banning unmanned aircraft systems and their parts. The executive order, known as Restoring American Aerospace Sovereignty, stated that the move also has the goal of boosting drone manufacture in the US for use here and for export to the global marketplace. The ban is expected to have far reaching effects on drone sellers as well as their customers. Drones are widely used by first responders, farmers, business owners and hobbyists. The ban only affects new products that are not already Here in the US this is Kent Petersen, KC0BGY as of January 1st, the landscape for drone operators has also changed in the uk. Under new Civil Aviation Authority regulations, each drone to be sold must carry class marks that reflect compliance with that particular aircraft's technical and safety standards. The class marks are similar to those used in the EU and cover where and how the drone can be flown. There is also an array of new regulations covering different weights of drones and their permitted proximity to people or crowds of people. Drones carrying cameras and weighing at least 100 grams are also required to have a flyer ID. A remote ID is also required to transmit the drone's identification and its location while airborne. The new regulations apply to drone use by hobbyists as well as professionals. The class based regulations do not apply to drones purchased before the first the before the first of this year. They will instead operate under the weight based rules. For specific rules visit caa.co.uk Chrome W6 RHC Repeater Check 1.

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QST, QST, QST. This is K6KO opening Sacramento Valley traffic. This net part of the National Traffic System. And the purpose of this net is to relay from traffic into that of Sacramento Valley. And to provide a stable bridge and visit progression and control. All stations are request of stable frequency and security. Kf6 obi, mike and willows. No traffic. Good evening, mike. Thank you. Kg60k. U. S call and rolling. No traffic. Kg60k. Good evening. Western the group. This is kg6uso. Bessie with no traffic. Thank you, betsy. Kf60k1. Good evening, lester. Kf6djy, bruce, chico. No traffic. Good evening, bruce. Thank you. K6rcs, K6pmt, kilo, echo6, papa, mike, tango, russ and gerber. Good evening, lester in the group and I have no traffic. KC6UFE, Bill in Cape. No traffic. Good evening, Lester. Good evening, Bill. Thank you. All right, that's the rollers. I have it. Do we have any lake papers or visitors wish to check in foreign? No further traffic or ticket. This is K6K closing Sacramento Valley traffic. N this net means daily at 2100 hours local time. Then the W6RC repeater 146. All stations are requested excused. I'd like to thank everybody who checked in tonight. And they go with Empire Amateur Race Society. But use the pier Dispatch closed at 2103 local time. 73.

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Good morning, Kilo. November six, Mike golf Kilo on frequency.

Speaker A: Good morning, kn6mgk.
Speaker B: Morning, steve. W6lnd.
Speaker A: Hey, good morning. Thought of a name yet?
Speaker B: Yeah, I think we got it.
Speaker A: Okay, so what's the name?
Speaker B: Because she has a shaped like a heart.
Speaker A: Oh, okay. Cornstones. Okay. Yeah. So now she's a Spanish dog too.
Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Right now I got her from a farmer out in Baylor.
Speaker A: Oh. My wife was wanting to know. Yeah, okay. So does the farmer have more?
Speaker B: This was the last one.
Speaker A: Yeah, not surprised. That's how that goes. Nice looking puppy. Yeah.
Speaker B: The price was only 300 bucks. Cost you that to go get one at the pound.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I paid $50 for my last dog, Mr. Willie, as a donation. I don't think I've ever spent more than. More than that. Really. Much more than that. But I've always had Nick's dogs.
Speaker B: She's Jack Russell, basically. Rat Terry, they call him a decorator.
Speaker A: Yeah. Cool. Yeah, I'm sitting here trying to work some FT8 also. So there's a boda station on 40 meters trying to get into them. Looks like LA or somewhere over there.
Speaker B: I don't think PSK was working this morning. I can hear it interfering with your radio when it's transmitting.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I can believe it. Yeah. Just like other folks out there putting their. Like right now, this transmit at 25 watts. Is it. Is it affecting it right now?
Speaker B: No, it's not now, but it was earlier I. You had hum in there and like. Huh. So when you said FT8, then I
Speaker A: knew what it was. Right, right. And so it's going to transmit here in about 10 seconds and we'll see then if it does that. I'm sure it will. Probably will.
Speaker B: Right. I just exercised the battery. It ran about a day and a half running the station, so. Gonna exercise the other battery probably some point this week.
Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So is there a hum right now?
Speaker B: Slight, but not bad.
Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Well, it just. It was at the end of the transmit cycle and it was just sending the roger out, so to the Pona station. So anyway, yeah, it's done now. Unless I find another guy. I just. Anymore. I don't just put cqs out too much. I just wait till I see someone I like. I put it. I put one or two CQs out just. Just for giggles. But usually like this time of day, I'll get nothing but Japan. Like right now, just putting that one PO out. A Japan station already came back.
Speaker B: Yeah, I like fleas. Right. I worked a. Worked a VK4 over near Brisbane yesterday. ST8. I think it was on 20 meters. No, I was on 10 meters.
Speaker A: Yeah. Do you think East Malaysia is a different country than, say, any other Malaysia? I don't know because it's popping up right now for dx. But I tried to get to him. He wouldn't respond.
Speaker B: Yeah, he may not be hearing you. I tried to work in Malaysia last night, no luck. But like I said, I put out probably 10 or 15 cqs this morning. I couldn't get anything coming up on PSK. I know. A week ago or so PSK wasn't working.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'll have to. All I know is people are coming back to me like that. I didn't even put a CQ out. And the Japanese got three of them right away after putting out that one response to a poda.
Speaker B: They're like fleas, right?
Speaker A: Yeah, they can be. And you know, whatever it is, they have some good tactics. They work. Evidently, when I go out and try to. To just blanket, give someone a cq, not a cq, give someone a response with. Even with a signal report in it, I don't oftentimes it'll get nothing back.
Speaker B: Yeah, I just call CQ anymore. Every time I ever try, damn near reach out to somebody, don't get them. If somebody reaches out to me, I try. Mark Automatic courtesy.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So you get four of these Japanese guys and you didn't even call, put on cq. You try to get. You get back to them?
Speaker B: Yeah, I do.
Speaker A: I see. Yeah, I don't. Although one time I got an interesting one. I can't confirm anything, but remember that one baseball player in Seattle, like Suzuki something. Here's something. Suzuki. Hiroshima. Suzuki or whatever. I don't know. Anyway, his name popped up after I looked him up. And I'm like, wow, that's interesting. Is that him? Is that him? I was reading through it. It doesn't appear to be him. So maybe more. More people have that same name in Japan.
Speaker B: I think it's a pretty common name.
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Speaker A: Yep. Well, that's how long it takes to log one right there from start to finish. After having to change everything over to, you know, the mode and all the stuff in the software. Since I'm not running anything like HEM Radio Deluxe and tracking everything, I mean, I just threw my computer up real quick and stuck the cable in and started putting out. Start looking at FT8.
Speaker B: I feel like right now I'm running FT8 as well. I'm seeing some stuff on PSK. It should start to receive or send. Now I'm sending. Is it interfering?
Speaker A: No, no. How many watts are you transmitting? Yeah, well, when I was doing 25 watts, you were saying. And I transmitted on purpose when you were. I was talking to you, you said you didn't hear nothing. And then when I came back with adding more power than I did, then you said it was a hum.
Speaker C: Yeah, see, I'm at 30 watts right now. We'll see if I see anybody, if anybody gets back to me. I'm seeing Indonesia, a few Arizona, Illinois, Canada. There's some stations out there. I'm on 40 right now.

Speaker A: I see you saw me 82 seconds ago.
Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm gonna see you here real soon too, I think, because I'm gonna try for you without even. I didn't see you on the screen. Yeah, I'm transmitting the call right now. I'll be surprised. Maybe you won't see me if I'm on the wrong 15 second interval.
Speaker A: You're on the same interval as me?
Speaker B: Yeah, because I won't be.
Speaker A: I just went to even.
Speaker B: I have to change back anyway. We'll see. Let's see if we get you this time. I don't know, I didn't see you at all, but I'm just putting out the blanket call.
Speaker A: I'm looking for you. I haven't seen your call come up yet, but I. I'm at 50 watts now.
Speaker B: Yeah, I just saw you so I grabbed you.
Speaker A: Yeah, that's working. Yeah. You're a plus 19.
Speaker B: Yeah. You're at plus 00.
Speaker A: Yeah. My antenna is not very good, is it?
Speaker B: Well, just for fun, I'll add negative O2. Okay, well just for fun, I'll lower the power. We'll see. You're doing 30 watts.
Speaker A: I'm at 50 right now.
Speaker B: Okay, well, I'll log in a second, but I'm going to change the power and I'll put the call. Just put a blanket call out there again.
Speaker A: You're a plus 23.
Speaker B: Yeah, I'll go to 50 watts and see. I'll just put out a blanket call again for you. And you can, you can. You don't have to respond to it. You can tell me what you see. If you see a difference, I'll Change it to 50 watts.
Speaker A: My computer is gonna answer it automatically. So I'll have to cancel it.
Speaker B: Yeah, you can, you can do whatever you want to do it. It won't unless you click on it. Right. You can just verify by seeing. Because I'm just giving. Instead of giving you a signal report, I'm just giving you my grid square.
Speaker A: If you call my call sign right, it'll go. It'll go. It'll answer mine. Configure where it'll answer automatically.
Speaker B: Okay, well, we'll see. I'm just putting the blanket call out there and you could verify it on the left hand side to see it.
Speaker A: But.
Speaker B: Okay, so you have to. So you know it'll go automatically. Okay, well I don't have mine done that way. I gotta click on it.
Speaker A: So you're plus 17 now.
Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Alrighty. Yeah, so it went down anyway. Okay, well, that's good to know. Yeah, I don't know. My antenna is just the same antenna. Well, I've had it for a couple months ago. So anyway, off center fed and roughly 20ft off the ground.
Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm on an infed. It's a homemade transformer and I just ordered a. I ordered a Palomar high power transformer.
Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, well we'll see. I backed it off to 25 watts, so we'll see if what it does on the next run here.
Speaker A: The last transmission was a 16 and the one before that was an 18.
Speaker B: Yeah, it doesn't really make that much difference, at least when we're close.
Speaker A: I think my transformer is homemade. It was kind of amateurish and I don't think it's that great.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Well, you're using a 200 inch gust though, right. So I mean even though if it was off a little bit, you know it's going to make up the difference.
Speaker A: I think I'm using the internal tuner. Right?
Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's gonna. So I'm just saying like if your transmatch was say instead of 49 to 1, it was 60 to 1. Or if it was 40 to 1, that internal tuner is making up the difference.
Speaker A: Yeah, for the most part. But you lose some and then I've got. I do have some reflected power back coming back in too. I need to do. That's why I ordered the Palomar. I'm hoping that'll solve some of the issues.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Plus an NFET halfway though. You order a trans transformer, did you? What's the length of the. And I think you, you told me before you're using the counterpoise. I think so. What is the length of the wire though? Move.
Speaker A: The counterpoise is about 20 foot.
Speaker B: Yeah. No, the length of the regular wire. The director.
Speaker A: 134.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So. So you're actually losing a lot of power. Yeah, losing a lot of power. Just in the fact that it was cut for 80 meters and you're using it on 40. That definitely. This gets lossy. It gets even more lossy if you get into 20 meters.
Speaker A: Yeah. I had to put a different cable the other day on the radio. I had ordered a custom cable for the 9700, a USB cable. It has ferrites on it's longer one. It's like a ten foot long cable. I found a place and had it custom made basically and I had to put it on the FTDX10 because I was getting I was getting RF.
Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, mine, my infant half wave is cut for 40 meters and I can use the tuner to use it on 80 meters. But yeah, I think I'm about half scale as everyone else because it worked the other direction. It's not very efficient either. I think it's probably almost five to one, but that's okay. Maybe four to one, something like that. Swr. So getting pretty lossy on 80 meters. But the other way is the same. The off center fed I think is slightly more efficient, the one I'm using right now because it's only using a 4 to 1. So you don't lose as much inside that. Inside that core.
Speaker A: Yeah, you're probably not losing quite as much. But you know, I got a tough yard to do anything with and this is, it's in a like. So I've got it pretty much evened up on each side of the house. That goes across the back and it's all at the same level. Unfortunately it's kind of hard in that configuration. So it's kind of like a half, half of a rectangle.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, the battle is you want to do everything with it, right? That's the problem. So like I don't know if you still have your loop up or not, but of course mine came down and I never put it back up. So if you still have a loop and you still have 80 meters on that, you didn't have to have an 80 meter on your end fed, something like that. But it's hard though with copies of like ours. Mine's not much different than yours. I've got some big trees in the middle of it, so. But yeah, the only way I can get like 135ft out of anything is go to corner to corner to property. And my wife doesn't want nothing in front of the house. It's bad enough. I've got the one on the edge of the eave at the front of the house and that's pretty visible from the, the front yard. But she won't let me go. Like the corner of the property.
Speaker A: Yeah, I gotta put my tri band up. Maybe next week I'll get to it.
Speaker B: Yeah. Is that a like a fan dipole?
Speaker A: No, I got a tri band diamond antenna for the, for the 9,700.
Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah, you mentioned that. Yeah, I forgot. What like a 6000 or something like that? I looked it up and it worked for 1200. Yeah, I told you I had that one here, that about that same size. That's a dime. It's a comet and it has the same. It's a TRI band with 1.2 GHz on it. But that's what I'm using right now actually.
Speaker A: I really like the diamond.
Speaker B: Well I like diamond too but this one I got reasonably. But yeah, it's been up for gosh probably four years. I bet it's always been my alternate but I've been relying on it for quite a while now. Since my antenna on the tree is
Speaker A: not working right then I'm going to take my GMRS antenna down. So if you know somebody is looking for a GMRF cut base station antenna I'll have one available.
Speaker B: Yeah, that does pop ups sometimes but I don't know. So is it fairly short or is that not still 10 footer? So it's probably got a lot of gain still.
Speaker A: This is all than my diamond. Right. And the diamond I bought I think is the same. Same length as my X2.
Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. It's nice to have an antenna that's cut right for a particular thing like that. I would think that the word gets out somebody if I jump on that stuff.
Speaker A: I would think so. I'd probably let it go for a hundred dollar bill. I think they're about 200 new.
Speaker B: Sticking up on the mountain up there and put a GMRS on it in the last one season maybe.
Speaker A: Yeah, right.
Speaker B: Yeah, I seen that Obi Comet CX333 or whatever it is. Yeah, I saw that thing in half on the ground one time.
Speaker A: Yeah, exactly right. That mountain is just brutal. Yeah.
Speaker B: I think you know, things get iced up. I mean I was amazed one time I saw a big mast all steel bent over like a horseshoe. I was like what the heck. And that was. That was strong. I just think things get iced up and then the wind comes.
Speaker A: Exactly. I've been listening a little bit on my scan bank on my 9700. I've got gear. They got so much garbage on that I'm gonna have to take it out of my scam bank.
Speaker B: Yeah. By garbage what do you mean? Because I'm not aware most time I only heard it come alive at 7:25 on Tuesdays
Speaker A: every 15 minutes. Now they got a message going their CW training the new frequency for Gears West Club Net ham breakfast and now they're putting on an amateur news thing.
Speaker B: Yep, I have heard some complaints about some of that. Yeah, there's a guy in Durham who made those comments the same that you just did. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yep. They've Got some things going on over there. So we'll see what they do over the next year.
Speaker A: Yeah, I take it out of my scam bank because it's just like. It's just like a commercial radio station. Right.
Speaker B: Sounds worse because I think they only have to put out their call and stuff like once an hour or something, don't they?
Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's just to the point where then the audio on that repeater is terrible.
Speaker B: Yep. I heard something yesterday about possibly changing its location, which seems like a mistake to me, but in a sense, you know, it's like anything, you give up a location or whatever and then you never get back. So I mean, they should always leave something there. Maybe they would the 70 centimeter stuff there, I don't know. But yeah, I've heard something about changing its location.
Speaker A: That's the problem when the new crew comes in like that. Right. They make all these changes and then they alienate some of the older members. But in this case, the repeater's been bad for a long time.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. These hot ideas, you know, they're going to put up a tower because they were given a tower. It looks like a little 30 foot tower or something. They're going to put some sort of an antenna that they were given, you know, beam antenna on top of it and then put it out like somewhere in Oroville or whatever and have it, have it be, what do you call it, like, you know, remote. So that say if you're a member, you can, you can, you know, use the remote software and I don't know they're gonna sign up for time and stuff like this. I don't know, whatever. But if I was gonna remote into a station, I'd want to remote into. I don't know. Tyler's exactly right.
Speaker A: With a real antenna.
Speaker B: Yeah, anything, Anything. But, you know, something a little bit out height and so forth. I mean, it'd be really fun. It'd be easier and better just to load into Jay's up there in Magalia because he's got power and stuff too.
Speaker A: Exactly. Right. Yeah. And then you got. You should be up out of the noise to a degree.
Speaker B: Yeah. Sometimes he has a pretty high noise floor. He's got all the solar and stuff going.
Speaker A: Yeah, I got, I bought a new solar panel, I bought a 200 watt folding panel. So I've got that. Been getting some of my stuff together for just so I have it.
Speaker B: Yeah, I've got some work to do on all that kind of stuff. Even batteries that I haven't really paid much attention to that. I need to get those back up and running and stuff like that. Like have it made sure one of the city box is charged. And that's one if you have that Bluetooth in it. And if you leave that alone for too many months, it, it doesn't die or nothing, but it wants to be asleep.
Speaker A: They say if you're going to store these Life Po4s, you should have them at half charge. But if you do that, then you want to use them, then you got to plan a little bit better. So what I do is every two or three months I take mine and cycle them through on the station to pretty much drain them down.
Speaker B: Oh yeah, that's smart. Yeah, I always want to have mine up if I can so I could just, you know, go out the door with it. But I did that one time, one time and couldn't figure out how come it wouldn't work. I ended up having to plug it in just to wake it up. And then it had okay charge, but it just, it was in its sleep mode.
Speaker A: Yeah, my original one, I just ran it out and then my one, I bought this last year, my hundred amp hour. I need to cycle it. So I'm charging back up the other one right now on the charger.
Speaker B: Probably the biggest mistake I've made was buying these individual cells that I've never put together into a battery. And now you can buy a decent 300amp hour battery for under 500 bucks. I've already got $500 invested in this one.
Speaker A: Yeah, but now you almost are. You almost got to finish it that you bought the stuff, right?
Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. Every time, you know, every time I turn around, I start to work on it, I need another part. So I'm like, well, that's stupid. So now I feel like I got all the parts and then I had no drive to want to do it. Then probably when I get back around to doing it, I'll lose some of those parts.
Speaker A: Just half buckle down and get it done. And then some of that you ordered from AliExpress and the shipping takes forever, right?
Speaker B: Yeah, I got those parts, those main parts, the cells and the, the bms, those things were, they've been here for more than a year now at this point.

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Speaker A: Exactly. So you're gonna have to, gonna have to do something with them, right, at some point. W6L.
Speaker B: Yeah, but every time you turn around, like I needed, I need the right cables, I need the right screws, like, you know, the screws just to screw into the top of the cells. The ones they give you are too short when you add the cable to it, you know, stupid stuff like that. Then you start looking up and going, okay, well the bus bars they gave me to go across terminal to terminal are just solid metal. And like the kid over there, he, you know, Will Prowse, he likes those ones that are expandable. You know, it's like, well, geez, I want to do it right at one time, so now I gotta order those.
Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, I get it. I don't know, you're gonna have to, have to get everything one day. If you need screws to that, at least you're close to Valley Wide Fastener.
Speaker B: Yeah, I never think about them.
Speaker A: I go in there all the time. Right.
Speaker B: Yeah. I'm gonna see if I can get our good friend. I just saw him on, so. But you know, jay helped their N6 WIP. I'm going to try to get him on FT8 since I just saw him on
Speaker A: Weird. I didn't see him, but maybe I wasn't looking for him.
Speaker B: Yep. I'll have to make sure I'm on the right 15 second interval too.
Speaker A: Well, on mine, I think if you click them, if it knows they're off, it'll automatically change it. I see, I see you calling them now.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yep, I hear the buzz.
Speaker A: You're, you're.
Speaker B: Yeah, I have to switch intervals just to see if you go on the other interval. Yeah, that's half the battle sometimes with all this is getting them, getting them, you know, synchronized to each. And by the way, when I go out and do poda, sometimes I'll do that. I'll put call down on both 15 second intervals and then just wait a couple cycles.
Speaker A: There you go.
Speaker B: Yep. I only know he's on because he, he put out, you know, he was responding to some other station.
Speaker A: He does a lot of FP8, I think.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we'll see, see if he gets back to me. Well, how about it, n6wip? Are you listening? Are you lurking? All right, so you're not seeing me call you on FT8.
Speaker A: Morning, jay. How are you? There you go. I'm not seeing you either, so I don't know what's going on. I never saw you, even saw you come up to me. It looks like the band's pretty long. Sent out my last signals. Other than Steve, everything's like out in the Salt Lake area, right? Is the nearest stations that saw me.
Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I just. Just got you. So I think partly I was just on the wrong interval. Yeah, yeah, I switched to. So, like right now you probably have your box checked that says TX even first. Yeah, and that's what mine was checked. So I had to uncheck that so I could get onto the different intervals and that way you could hear me instead of us transmitting at the same time.

Good morning. This is nz6j mobile on system 16.

Speaker A: I'll be back. I'm gonna take Puppy out for a minute.
Speaker B: All right. Is she fixed? Probably not yet, right?
Speaker A: No. She's only 10 weeks.
Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Well, yeah. I forget what size you can do it, but you can do them when they're fairly young.
Speaker A: They say it's better to let them go through a heat cycle.

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Speaker A: The joys of having a new puppy. So, what you up to, Jay? No, but it probably just heard me on PSK recorder. Although
Speaker B: I would like to do some early ponas. It's just that, well, it's awful cold and I don't want to drive in the dark, so that is half the battle.

Yeah, we've been hitting that down here in Chico. Maybe he's in Oroville or something right now, but in the mornings, we've been. We've been hitting that.

Speaker A: Mine's heated. After I eat a nice, nice load of beans. Kn6mgk. Do you hear me, paul? Yeah. It wasn't anything
Speaker B: worthwhile anyway. But anyway, good to hear you out there. And that's good that you're hearing me, short antenna out of Chico. So if you're heading up the hill, then you'll hear me better as you go.

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Speaker A: I bet in
Speaker B: your field
Speaker A: there's
Speaker B: some things
Speaker A: that you don't want to see, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, people
Speaker B: generally aren't upset with you because it's not your fault. But what about everybody that comes. Comes to the wherever at some point in time. They may not be contacting you directly, but they're all sick, right? In some form or another.
Speaker A: Is there others that do, though? I mean, others that
Speaker B: are helping those patients and then, you know, they're coming back to see you potentially?

Well, I got two podas this morning on 40 meters already on FT8J.

Speaker A: Can you imagine someday somebody who's used to something like that fancy stuff, and they drive an older vehicle, thinking it's going to do the same things, and they come upon somebody and it doesn't do it?
Speaker B: Yeah, well, she's anything like my wife. They want to be in control of everything, so they
Speaker A: don't like things that are automatic.

Speaker A: I wouldn't
Speaker B: trust it in rain and heavy fog.

Yeah. And if it can't see the fog lines or any of the lines, I think it wouldn't do so great. And then it won't be able to see any tail lights until you get up close to them and stuff. So reaction time, I'm thinking.

Yeah. So what's new on the mesh there, Paul? You doing anything on that? Yeah, I think some people are like, you know, failing to turn on the MQTT function. There's a few of those in there that need to be on. And then, of course, the one you don't want the one for the Internet to be on, but then the mapping and the cassette and the consent at the bottom of that same field, those need to be. Yep. Well, Dan sure has it down because he's on the map every minute or two. He has all the settings right. So he can chime in there and see what. What exact setting is not right. If that's the problem. Yeah, I would think if you hung out somewhere for a couple hours and it wasn't at your place, you'd be able to determine real quick if it was a setting or not. Because, like, I know down there at Starbucks even tends to go off and show our positions there. So. Yep, even if you went there, hung out for an hour or something like that, it ought to have gone off by then. Yeah, I have like four nodes now. But, yeah, I did leave one up there with my neighbor to kind of play with and stuff. And so he's been mostly monitoring. As far as I know, that's the MGK1 node. And even though he doesn't have it up on a pole or nothing, you know, it's in a pretty good location. And he's actually down in a little bit of a hole. But I see that it takes over some of the other stuff in the area sometimes, so I find that pretty interesting. When I go up there probably tomorrow, I might play around with something totally different, and I'd be curious how that works. Usually I'm there for, say, four or five hours, and I'll hang it up in a tree, you know, hang a different note up in a tree. So do some experimenting anyway, so I may do something with that tomorrow. I think I pretty well found that those little short ones that they come with are pretty ineffective. But I bought off of Amazon those. I think Dan was sending the link around. They're two, like, little half wave. They say 17 centimeters, but they're really about six and a half inches. And they say 915 megahertz on them anyway. But yeah, they work pretty good. I think they work better than some of these other antennas I've seen. Even the one I saw on my solar node, I think it works better than that. I might experiment with changing that one out and putting that little thing on there just to see if I get more nodes than I'm getting now, so I won't be surprised. Yeah, No, I saw him, too. Yeah. In fact, Pat down here saw him, and he posted who's this? AJT or whatever. And so then it came back. Oh, yeah, that's Adam. So, anyway, yeah, he's been on the map. Yeah, I want to see one. Get up there at the. At one of the schools or something. That'd be pretty cool.

Speaker A: We 6axm repeater.
Speaker B: Try out a new radio audio from the repeater. Kk6etd on six side of wh.

Speaker A: Well, I know under the MQTT settings,
Speaker B: there's definitely a couple of them right there that need to be, you know, enabled, especially at the very bottom where it says, you know, okay to map. And then there's a consent. Those two need to be on. But I think I have one on the top. You know, there's one disabled and one enabled up
Speaker A: at the very top of that section, too. Yeah,
Speaker B: right on. You know, when you. I have an Android, so inside the program, you open it up, you get your Lora settings and all that. Didn't Dan go through at least with one of you guys? I don't recall. Or maybe at the meeting? All the settings on all the little. All the little fields that come up.

Yeah. KN6MGK. Yeah. Ultimately, I think someone needs to, I don't know, go through every field once it's all dialed in, like, take a little quick camera shot on their phone and then send it out to everybody, you know, so that everyone's on the same page, you know, with one exception being that, like, maybe your unit could be one could be a client mute. One can be in client, or one can be in client base. That would be everyone's up to them how they do it. But all the other settings, I think, pretty much need to be the same.

Speaker A: If you have those shorter ones that are only, you know, about 7 inches tall, you might be able to cut off one. Yeah, I probably want to have an analyzer on it or something just to see, just for fun, but I bet you it would work.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, I have to check
Speaker A: them. I have some of those, I think, somewhere laying around. It might be kind of fun. I do stuff like that because I don't really care about a, you know, $40 radio like those things are. So I play. I play with them. Yeah. Anyway, I just have some fun with it. I don't have all the nice tools that Dan has, of course. You know, if I think Jay might have one, I don't recall if he has, like, a rig expert that goes up into that 900 MHz range. My rig expert only goes up to 220 MHz, so I didn't elect to spend
Speaker B: the extra money. Yeah, it's true. I have a vna, but
Speaker A: I just. I hate the thing, so. And I don't know how well it would work anyway, because I paid $25 for my VNA back in the day, and that's how much they were. Just like, the tiny sas were cheap, too. Everything's double, triple. I mean, I think you. You have to spend a hundred bucks to get a Nano VNA anymore, and mine was 25 bucks.

Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So, see, you can experiment with some of these, like the Bofang
Speaker B: antennas and see how they are on 914 MHz. Why not? What's way too long? HT maybe. I don't understand what you mean. HT antennas are six and a half inches long. That blue guy's been there for
Speaker A: a
Speaker B: while.
Speaker A: I've gotten him before. Yeah, they're too long. That's the whole point, is that you look at them and you cut them off. They're both fang antennas, after all. All they are if you pull that shield off. There's a little piece of wire inside there, you know. There's nothing to them.

That was the whole point of it. You said that yours will go up to 3 GHz. So if your analyzer goes up to 3 GHz, then you should be able to measure an HT antenna and be able to cut it back until it goes down to 914 MHz.

Speaker A: Yeah, mine did. Yeah, the Robert, I think, put the link on there again yesterday or so forth. It was like 20 bucks for two. Yeah, you're full scale now, by the way. 73
Speaker B: kilo November 6th, Mike. Golf kilo. So I'll be checking into a net here in a minute.

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Speaker A: Yeah, six grg, You're around. Steve kn6mgk
Speaker B: and security.

Speaker A: Well, you got about half an hour, something like that. I was in the other room just kicking back, having a cup of coffee. Good morning. KN6MGK.
Speaker B: Oh, I. I don't know if I heard the first part. They started out with half hour. That's what I heard. N6TRG.
Speaker A: Yeah, I got about half hour and I go wake up the wife and give her a cup of coffee and stuff. But. Yep. Anyway, good morning to you. Just trying to catch up on a thread that's talking about meshtastics between this couple guys here in Chico and a couple guys up in Paradise. What are you up to? Yeah, it was kind of interesting how
Speaker B: you said nobody really pays attention to the rf. It's whatever it does and nobody's keeping track of who you're actually reaching. It's all virtual. So that's weird.
Speaker A: Yeah. You know, you just can't think of these mess tastic units like ham radio operator does, you know, point to point to point, that type of thing, because they don't work anything like that. They have their own little protocol and they've changed that over the time. So a couple of YouTube videos out there you can watch, but they tend to want to flood the area and go for the furthest distance before they. Before they go to something else. And then if you favorite something, like you would think that you would want to favor your friends or something like that and that would give precedence to them. And it does, but problem is that they may not be in a good location for you to see them direct or anything. So you would actually want not to favorite them. You would want to go to someone else's node and have it hit them on like a next hop or something like that. So it's just a totally different way of thinking. So the RF maps is fine to give you a line of sight like say 915 MHz or something, but your nodes aren't going to work that way.
Speaker B: Well, the notes do work that way. It's just that the software doesn't recognize it.
Speaker A: Yeah, a lot of it has to do with how you're setting it. Like what mode? There's all kinds of different modes, like client, client, mute, you know, router, router, late client base, all kinds of different modes and settings. And there's a lot of stuff to look at, try to understand and not a ton of information out there still after a couple years. But the one website that has most of the stuff there is meshtastic.org you know, and that would give you an idea things of what's going on? And then, of course, there's the. And groups. IO I think that the Sacramento group has a discord, and I think so does the San Francisco Bay Mesh. They have, like, discords and stuff, forums to look through and stuff like that. But everything we've been learning has been mostly on trial and error.
Speaker B: Well, I would think there is somebody out there who's paying attention to what the RF is doing, and you just haven't found the guy yet or the part of the groups or whatever.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, other people have gone to Mesh Core, which does kind of work more in that way, but meshtastic is more of a. Likes to flood it out there. Flood the information out there. So I don't know. It's definitely different. And so it takes a while to get kind of abreast of what's going on and how it works. Like, one of the things that they did just today is they changed the repeater location, where we have one, to saying it's a router. And now that has drastically reduced the hops of the Guys in Paradise. They were seeing things from the Bay Area on five to six hops, and now, because as a router, they're seeing them in, like, two hops. So things get funneled better through routers. Like the Sutter Buttes has a router. There's a router in Chico. So this tends to help direct the traffic better.
Speaker B: Well, when I looked at those, How you characterize them, they're showing who you're reaching as a line, a direct line. And there were some that went directly to the Bay Area. And.
Speaker A: And
Speaker B: I'm assuming that's kind of what you're talking about, that maybe those. Those maps look different now that he changed to a router.
Speaker A: Yeah, we'll have to see. Yeah. Have to see what? How this populates. But, yeah, those are. Those are kind of like PSK Reporter, you know, when you look at that online and Grid Tracker gives you lines just to give you an idea to that site. But it doesn't mean that it traveled that way necessarily.
Speaker B: Well, with psk, it does mean that. It means that you've. Your signal has traveled, like, to Australia or something. Especially when you're talking about JSA call
Speaker A: now.
Speaker B: IPRs, I've noticed, plays around with what they're showing.
Speaker A: Yeah, but it just shows you a path, and it probably shows you a shortest path, but it doesn't necessarily mean that your signal went that path.
Speaker B: Okay, so you're saying with JSA Cole, for instance, that if it shows a Path to Australia. It's not actually a direct path, and I'm disagreeing with that.
Speaker A: Well, I'm saying that it is a path.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker A: So some of the ones could go over the top of the world or something, right? I don't know. I mean, just saying. Yeah, the shortest, the shortest path seems like it. The most potential probable. But I mean, there's lots of things that happen up in the ionosphere and coral hops and stuff that we don't always know. Right?
Speaker B: Yeah, but you're, you're switching things around here. What I'm saying is that if there's a path that shows that you reached Australia, that that is a direct RFP path. Now, if there's a path that shows that you reached Europe, that may be a polar path and it should show it as a polar path. But these. What I'm saying is that what we're seeing with meshtastic is not an actual RF path at all. And I think we agree there.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, mistake. It just intends to mean that here's, here's the location of one node. And that could be approximate, by the way, because that depends on one's settings because there's some ambiguity to the settings based on the operator, what they decide to put in there. It could be three miles or whatever. I mean, that's not a whole lot, but it's a lot when you're in a little community. So like in Chico, I have one set up for the location where I am, and I have one set up to where it shows about a half mile away.
Speaker B: So
Speaker A: anyway, that's what happened with that. But nevertheless, from over distances it gives you an idea. So it'll say, okay, I'm in Chico and the seven line goes down into say, Fremont. And I did have a connection into there one time from paradise, anyway, and where he responded to something I said, so I know that he got me. But question is, how did it get there? And that's something that we've had a hard time figuring out. So sometimes it takes a couple, three hops or whatever and it won't tell you what hops they were. And then when you hit trace route, which is something you can do on them, it might take a totally different path on the trace route than your, your original message did. So it's kind of weird like that.
Speaker B: Well, you've heard of how they say ham radio operators aren't supposed.
Speaker A: To.
Speaker B: What's the term they use? Basically, if it's a digital transmission, that's not supposed to make it so that everyone can't tell what the digital transmission is. I forget what the term they use is for that.
Speaker A: Yeah, that's the encryption. Right. But, yeah, these. You know, nobody is selecting the HAM operator on them that. Nobody around here that I know. Even though we're pretty much all hams. So. So we're able to use that encryption and that's what's happening. You know it.
Speaker B: Yeah, but.
Speaker A: But regardless of that, on the public channel, it's not encrypted. Anyone on the public channel see that communication if. If it hits their device. So. But if you set up a private channel, then that becomes encrypted and you'd have to have the encryption key in order to see it.
Speaker B: Yeah. So I would. When it comes to, like APRs, you know, using some sort of. Sort of ambiguity with your GPS is. I would consider that to be similar to encryption.
Speaker A: Well, you might consider that, but it's not.
Speaker B: Right.
Speaker A: I mean, almost all the AC units have a form of ambiguity that you can turn on and off if you want to. I generally don't, but I have.
Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not sure how the FCC would look at that, because if it's not actually true information, if it's been changed by some program and it's not accurate and it's not true information and it's digital, then it's ambiguity and it's encryption.
Speaker A: I guess that's something to take up with him. What's left of them after Doge.
Speaker B: Yeah, I guess by them you're talking about the fcc. I'm. What I'm saying is that, you know, just as a general reference and, you know, trying to, you know, describe what's going on in terms of ambiguity and encryption, which are very similar in my opinion. If you. If you modify your actual location on HAM radio using some sort of software that GPS provides, that's a. That's very similar to encryption.
Speaker A: Yeah, I can see it being a gray area for sure. I guess nobody's wanted to discuss that with them or certainly there's been no cases and that requires where they've. What do you say cited people for using ambiguity on their gps coordinates on APRs. I think it's just such a small segment of society that they don't care. Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker B: Well, I think that they don't care idea is true, but. Yeah, something to think about. I don't think they ever will care, especially direction things are going with those and everything. Yeah.
Speaker A: What I'll say aprs, at least the ambiguity, like you said it and let's say I'm going along Interstate 5, right? It'll beacon, you know, let's say it's an eighth of a mile to the west of Interstate 5. Then you know, you go a couple more miles, a couple minutes or whatever, say three minutes, it beacons again. It'll still show you, you know, that same distance to the west of Interstate 5. And you keep going along Interstate 5, you see three or four beacons. I'm pretty sure at least that most people looking at that we get the idea that you're on Interstate 5.
Speaker B: Yeah, but if your ambiguity is such that it's not showing where you are, it might not even show you on Interstate 5.
Speaker A: It isn't showing you that. That's my point. It's showing you an eighth of a mile or whatever to the west of Interstate 5. And it keeps going along that same track versus Midgetastic will throw you anywhere. It could, you know, say that you set it as a quarter of a mile. You could be west at one moment, east the next, north the next. I mean, it tends to fairly approximate, you know, stay in a similar spot, especially if you set it in a fixed location. But if you're moving along, like we've noticed, like if I'm driving along the skyway taking a. All over the place.
Speaker B: Well, what's going on with the ideas that.
Speaker A: The.
Speaker B: There's different, completely different versions of Mustachic, you know, they don't call it misstastic, they call it something else. So what's going on in those, with those groups? Are they just, are they not sure where they're going and what they're going
Speaker A: to do with it? Just kind of Ford, Chevy kind of thing, I think. You know, Apple, Linux, you know, Windows, you know, different, like say Operating systems, but similar ideas. There's some major differences like that Mesh Core has no Internet, you know, capability at all. Meshtastic has some like, they call it mqtt and that stands for something like mesh something telemetry. Anyway, I'd have to look it up the exact verbiage, but that's Internet connectivity where you can plug in your cable to it to your computer and be able to talk to all the nodes that way using your Internet. Now when the Internet goes down, you still have RF capabilities, but let's say that you're out in the sticks kind of like you are. Well, right now you may not be able to hear any other notes, but when you hook up the mqtt, you'll be able to talk to everybody. So eventually the Mesh will build in around you. Let's say it might take a few years and then you could pull the cable off. You'd still have your RF at that point. Other nodes have come into the area and so forth and you can still communicate with them. So. So the other, the other one major difference is that meshtastic only allows for a maximum of seven hops. And mesh core you can do. I think it's like 60 or something like that. A lot more hops. Plus you can direct the traffic. You can direct the path. Kind of like on aprs. How we could actually set a path, although I don't know anyone who really does. I have for practice I've taken away my hops and put just a path like just to just the mountaintop that this repeater is on, for instance. So I could just beacon off of this one only. And it hasn't. It had no Internet connectivity at the time. So people that I knew could do the same thing and then we wouldn't be hitting the Internet at all. And that we weren't hitting any gateways. Right. We were just able to talk to each other. KN6MGK.
Speaker B: So gateway is one that puts it into the mishtastic. What do they call the mishtastic Internet? Part of it.
Speaker A: Yeah. Well, the one verb is they uses mqtt. So Mike Quebec Tango. Tango. So that's one of them. And they do have gateways. So yeah. So that is a way by which nodes can be found and mapped and so on is because eventually if they're especially in some place like Sacramento or San Francisco area or whatever, you know, somebody there has probably got a gateway and eventually your. You might only be RF only but it, it hits their machine and then it gets put on the map by their system.
Speaker B: All right, well, incidentally, with my jsa, I've got a problem with JSA right now. I think I've told you about it and I totally removed. What it is, is the audio that's supposed to come from the radio doesn't show on the waterfall.

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Speaker A: So it's having a problem with audio input. Well, I just got through removing the entire. Driver or ICOM and reinstalling it and did it the right way and no luck, still doesn't work. I changed the settings or I double checked the settings. It's codec settings like it's supposed to be. So didn't work.
Speaker B: Yeah. And so is this on a Windows computer or a Linux computer that you're operating from at the moment?
Speaker A: Windows right now. Now I do have a. Well, I know I don't have a Linux computer that's set up to operate with jsicol, so that's. That's too bad because that would help me decide that I have a setting wrong in my icom, but that's what I suspect now.
Speaker B: Yeah, I just, I get all screwed up when it comes to Microsoft because they want to do their own things. The computers themselves want to do their own updates and sometimes unbeknownst to you or whatever, then things change in there and that gets all wacky. So I don't know. But that said, I'm running one right now, Windows 11. So I wonder if there's been any updates on your computer that have changed and made things different. I don't know. Could be, but. So the problem is that your computer is not sensing the radio. Right. It's radio may be putting out. You do have CAT control. You can actually get to where you can, where you can control like you change the frequency on the radio and you can see a change on your computer that probably is working. Right.
Speaker A: No, now that was working before I changed the driver and now it doesn't even do that. And it's saying there's a hemlib. There's a complete failure, free control failure. So I don't know, starting over again.
Speaker B: Yeah, well, take. Well, I might have j.
Speaker A: Say call completely out and reinstall install it. Who knows. Though, I should check some things like the baud rate. Maybe the baud rate has changed between the radio and the computer.
Speaker B: Yeah, well that's definitely something to check first. Right. So that's like the most important critical thing to communicate the same speed. Yeah.
Speaker A: And you know, you just have to wonder why is this happening to me? Why is the sky falling?
Speaker B: Yeah, well, you have to think about like say you were out in the middle of the ocean somewhere and this happened. I mean, how. What would you do? Because you're stuck if you have. No, I mean, I say you're stuck, but not really. But if that is one of the ways of communication that you are solely, you know, dependent upon, let's say. And now you have this issue, I mean, I wonder how much importance would that be and how much time would you be spending on it? Seems like you'd be spending a lot of time on it if that was real important to you. Because there'd be nothing more important than developing good communications between you and the outside world if you're out floating around somewhere.
Speaker A: Well, that's one interesting thing about boating is that if you're in a passage, say, and you're going from one country to another or something, then your boat, if it's working correctly, is going to be automated. It you tell it, I want to go here and it takes you there. They call that autopilot.
Speaker B: I know as long as the conditions outside are okay, it could leave you plenty of time to be working on it. And you've only got, I don't know how wide they are, but you don't have very much space on most boat to be maneuvering around and doing too many other things. What is it? What are they 10ft wide by, you know, so many feet long.
Speaker A: Yeah, the width is regulated and so a 30 foot boat can only be so wide and if it's wider than that, then it has to get all kinds of special, special permissions and pay more money.
Speaker B: Yeah, no, I was just thinking about normal ones that you can occasionally see being hauled up and down the roads. You know, just once in a while you see some of those other ones you obviously cannot haul that way. So they've got to be transported via ocean.
Speaker A: That's one of the primary reasons they keep the width down to a certain, certain width. So they can make the boat trailer. Trailerable.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So yeah, you got to have. Even if, you know, special shipping requirements might require trucks to have oversized load signs and things like this. And of course, special permits to go from this spot to this spot. And you know, I'm going to give you days you can do it and do days you can't. Like, you certainly cannot do it on holidays.
Speaker A: Now, you know, if, just thinking about what I'm dealing with here, if I change the driver, I wonder if that would change the, the baud rate. But no, it's still showing the same com port and the same baud rate. So that must be something in JSA call that remembers that, not the driver. Yep.
Speaker B: Well, I know with the icoms they have that whole thing with the CIB address and certain things with that and those, those parts of the menus. Hard to deal with. But ultimately, the way I was able to get PATS to go is by using the FT8 preset. So. So you have to load in the FTA preset and. And then when you're done using it, you unload it. So that's how that works. So when he wants to use FT8 or JS8, he has to load the preset. So maybe, maybe your current configuration, you weren't doing it that way. And you'll have to start.
Speaker A: Yeah, I think when you talk about preset, you're talking about a. A setup file that's designed for your radio,
Speaker B: right? Yeah. I mean, I don't remember if you've done it or not, but like, you know, done all the latest, you know, the 7300 firmware updates, and in order to get that to work, we had to get the most latest firmware update and it did put in the FT8 presets and I couldn't get his to work by using that preset. So. No, not without using like, flrig or something like that, which I know you
Speaker A: don't want to do.
Speaker B: So that solved the whole problem. But. Yeah. So I don't know what your current version of your firmware is for your icon 7300, but it's something you ought to look into if you haven't upgraded it.
Speaker A: Are you saying that the firmware update changed the BAUD rate?
Speaker B: No, just the whole. The way the whole radio works. I mean, it wasn't working at all. Like the same kinds of problems you're having where I could establish CAT control, but I couldn't establish audio. So one way or the other, and I. We're racking our heads on that for days. And we've even hooked up other radios that were known to work to the computer and we could get the known one to work. Then we'd put it back on his with all the same settings as the known one, and it wouldn't work. So it was just wacky. The only way to solve it was to do the firmware Update of the ICOM system 7300 to bring it up to the most current firmware. And then that. That made everything happy all of a sudden.
Speaker A: And you don't know why?
Speaker B: Correct. Don't know why that is correct.
Speaker A: Well, I insist on knowing the whys, and that's, I guess, why I'm fighting with them. Fighting here.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, you. And I think of things differently in that way. So I try not to get in the heads of the programmers and that's of both the radio and of the computers. But I bet you something changed. I mean, it could just be as easy as whenever this problem first arose. You probably had a Windows update in there or something. I would venture a guess, because that's what Windows does, and they halfway do it all the dang time.
Speaker A: There's a chance it could be related to the Windows update. But then I also had another problem happen where my antenna became inoperable because one connection changed. And so the SWR went through the roof and so forth and so on. That means the RF in the shack went through the roof. So that could have had an effect on everything.
Speaker B: And
Speaker A: they think, well, they, some of the people think that it actually can reprogram your radio. RF in the shack can, because when you're, when you're operating on a USB cable, RF gets on the cable and causes things to go wacky. That's one of the initial things we all learn. So we had to use special cable.
Speaker B: Okay, so can you look up right now what your firmware is, what version you're running?
Speaker A: I'm not going to mess with the firmware.
Speaker B: Okay, no problem. Yeah, just looks like that. The most recent version is version 1.42, which was dated 5. 15 of 24. So that was just curious. But anyway, I know it's a very simple thing to do. You just have to have one of those SD cards in the transceiver. But yeah, I'll keep praying for a while and maybe you'll get it right. So I'll be interested to find out what you. What you find out when you do.
Speaker A: Well, when you're repairing something, if you make a change like what you're talking about, you're adding a variable. Now by adding, I added a variable here, and that was the driver for the icon and that change change things that were not broken before. See, so that's what I'm saying. The more variables you add, the more change, the more you have to fix. And now I have to fix the variables that I just added by changing the firmware, I mean the driver. So, you know, I'm going to fix things as I go along rather than adding who knows how many variable changes and having to fix, you know, even more. If I had to change the firmware, then I add a whole set of new variables. So I ended up with not just the driver problems, changes. But now if I had the firmware, then I have an additional set of changes that I've made happen that I'm gonna have to repair.
Speaker B: Or everything just works and you're done.
Speaker A: And you're saying that's what happened, everything just work?
Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, the ICOM 7300 and the Yaesu that I have, the FPDX 10 and the 710 and 991A, they're all a different animal. So, you know, I don't even understand. I'd have to look up the words. But like on yaesu, there's nothing called civ and that's what it's called, an icon. But yeah, there's things like that. And you had CID address and stuff like that in there. And sometimes there's different ports. Like, I know the YAESU uses Silicon Labs, right? So you have to have the correct driver for that. So anyway, so the icons, for some reason when they did the firmware update, I mean, I can remember the. When he first got it, it did not have any, anything in the preset spot. Okay, so, so, but after we did the firmware update, then there it was, you know, that popped up, FT8 preset. So, so then you would load that in and now all of a sudden the audio drivers and everything on the, like WSJTX would recognize it. So recognize it. So whatever they did in the firmware update made those changes. So I don't know, if you haven't done your firmware update in years, you might consider that. But, you know, let you work through it the way you're gonna work through it and like I say, maybe you'll find out what it is exactly that they've changed or that got changed, you know, somehow automatically or by rf, as you say, or however it happened, I don't know. But I mean, in the meantime, I mean, the only other ideas I've got are to try a Linux machine or something like that, right? You know, try different radio, something. That way if you try a different radio, you would be able to say, okay, well, computer's working fine, so now I can cancel that out. It's not the computer, it's definitely a setting or whatever. And you know, this is the kind of thing that we were doing for days and with three or four other operators that are real familiar with like say wsjtx and they couldn't figure it out. So the firmware update fixed it. And that's all I'm saying. KN6MGK.
Speaker A: Well, I mean, just listening to what you're saying and some of the details, and the details are important, I would have to say that you lucked out because FP8 and its set of presets and it sort of kind of recognized recognition of the radio and so forth. Worked with the firmware that ICOM set up. So you said the firmware, I think you were saying the firmware actually had a set of presets for MT8. So that set of presets probably set up some of communication with FT8. I can tell you that the guy that wrote JSA Call wrote that last version, like been like three, four, five years ago and didn't change a thing. Hasn't changed a thing. There's no update. And they're talking about updates now, but they, they didn't do it. There's no updates, so there's no provision like what you're talking about with JSA Call. If I were to change and Try to run FT8 and play these games you're talking about do firmware and all that, I would make changes to my radio and changes to. And, and there's already changes written into FT8. Then there's a firmware preset. But that, all that stuff, none of that stuff's gonna work with JSA Call. See, that's the problem.
Speaker B: Well, what you're not understanding is I could not get JS8 Juliet Sierra8 to work with Pat's computer icon7300 when he first got it. I could not get to go, no matter what. I could do JS8 also. So WSJTX, that's a different program. And I agree with what you're saying that that JS8 hasn't changed, but it would not work because the computer, his Windows computer, could not communicate with his radio. So, so that's.

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Speaker A: That didn't change whether it was JS8 or FT8. But what did change is after the firmware update on the radio, then both of them would work. So I'm sure I could probably tomorrow, because not today, but I could go. We could go over to his place and put on his Windows computer, put on his FTA presets and go on JSA call just like we did before. I bet it would work. And so what has changed is your computer, most likely. I'm just thinking. So it's just a possibility. But yeah, Windows Update may have come in and done something and now they won't communicate, I don't know. But yeah, I'll be intrigued to find out what you discover when you fix it. So it could be just a little setting that got on he wear. I don't know. But I never did figure out what the problem was, but I figured out the solution and that's all I cared about. KSX mgk,
Speaker B: you know what I'm saying is if I did the kind of things that you're talking about, I would never know. And if you don't know what's changing and what's happening, that makes it tough to fix things in the future. But you're saying you don't need to know, and I understand that.
Speaker A: Yeah, well, we're agreeing on that. That is what I'm.
Speaker B: Yeah. Since I'm not running FT8 at all on this with this computer, I don't think I ever did. I have to go down a totally different road. What would be cool would be to know, you know, have some way of knowing what the changes are. You have to like make a list of what you've got now versus what. See, the way we set up JSA was folks would say, well, here's how you set up your radio. So you set up your radio and then you'd have to set up the JSA software to match what you just did with the radio. And they do that on YouTube usually.
Speaker A: Honestly, the ICOM 7300 is so prevalent out there, there's so many different YouTubes you could watch. And that might get kind of confusing because you know how people can be as teachers, they might do things in a different way and it might take a while to find the right guy that you can understand. But when it comes to Yaesu, I got my 991 alpha. If you remember like four years ago, something like that, there was hardly anybody operating JS8 on the Yaesu991A, you know, so it was real difficult to find anyone and they would all say, oh, use the ST8 settings, and so on and they're similar and all that. For the first few months the only way I could operate JS8 was by using Flrig because it was a lot, lot more forgiving. So you have to open up FLRIG first and then of course under JSH settings for the radio you put Flrig Flrig, you'll notice on even one of Cam4 Ack's videos recently. I'd have to go back, it might be a couple months ago they were talking to him about using. You know how he uses. He runs these programs and he uses FLRIG for almost everything is what he said. So he'll just put it in FLRIG one time and then on these other programs he'll use FLRIG FLRIG for his radio and the settings are already there. So that's how he prefers to do it is what he states. And for obvious reasons you don't want to do that. You want to have each of your programs have information in it and so forth. And I can understand that too. But even he's not doing it that way
Speaker B: and even he's changing. He put out a video that said he's no longer gonna do anything with it with Linux that, you know, he. I haven't looked to see why he's doing that. What's going on there, I don't know.
Speaker A: But there's certain programs that we know, like the Japanese seem to want to. Like Yaesu wants everything to be on Windows so it becomes a problem when you're out in the field. If you're going to have just one computer out in the field, it almost needs to be a Windows computer just for those reasons. I mean, you just don't know what you're going to run into. And everything seems to be made for Windows first, you know. So I think that would be a reason why most of us are doing. I mean that's what I have right here and I bought it just for that purpose. You know, It's a Windows 11 machine, little cheap laptop, cost me like 210 bucks and it's been doing everything for about a year now. So everything to do with ham radio, I don't do nothing on it that isn't ham radio. And you know, one big problems I got is I use one, two, I use about four different radios with it and on digital mode. So when I go back to want to use my 857 for instance, the old school 850 had to go through and reconfigure all those settings. So that's why I don't want to get an icom. Part of it is because it would be totally different then. So right now I use the same. You know, most of the settings are the same. Just have to change the radio and the audio settings and typically that will that own the COM ports and that typically works. But the other settings like the stop bits and the handshake and the split and all that can all stay the same. Then the only other thing I gotta adjust sometimes is the microphone and the speakers, that type of thing. The sound settings. I'll say.
Speaker B: Yeah, that's one of the reasons why you need to know what's changing and what's not changing because these older radios that don't have any presets and all that other stuff in the firmware.
Speaker A: Alrighty. Well, I gave it a. I said half hour. It's been 45 minutes. I gotta go see what the wife's up to and get her a cup of coffee and get her going. So might want to take a walk here as it's. If it warms up in about an hour. All right, so I'll say 7:3 for now and maybe I'll get that figured out soon. Then I'll be able to find out what you fixed. KN6MGK.
Speaker B: Well, now it's looking like I'm gonna have to look at the. Since I changed the driver, I'm gonna have to look at. Is there a lot of things now because I did have it working on transmit and I don't now I only have it work. I only had a problem with what was coming from the radio before. Now it's a problem with what's going from the computer to the radio. See, So I have more. More to do because the firmware changed things that apparently JSA Call used in its firmware. So, yeah, more going on. That's why I say making a bunch of changes and you end up with more problems you had before. Talk to you later. N6TRT.

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Speaker A: Hello, larry, how are you doing n6kn here?
Speaker B: Good afternoon. Doing good here. I thought later.
Speaker C: I'm back, alive and well, here I am. How are you?
Speaker B: I'm good.
Speaker A: I'm just hanging out here while the wife, she's on the phone with somebody and we're gonna start making dinner here pretty quick. How's everything up there in Oregon?
Speaker B: Oh, all is good here.
Speaker C: Normal sunshine coming in my back windows. I'm not used to that lately. That's nice. Some days we're all good. Nothing special going on, just.
Speaker A: Yeah. Are you, you feeling better?
Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm feeling fine. I'm doing nothing.
Speaker C: Feeling fine. Just every so often having all these nodes and all these different loads on it. Just like overload.
Speaker B: You know What I usually do when I want to get on in traffic is turn everything else off.
Speaker C: I'm not so distracted, but I just kept giving. Not only six nodes, but also the D stars always go on and then local.
Speaker B: There's no version right there.
Speaker C: Local VHW frequency. And
Speaker B: then I tried to get HS1.
Speaker C: So I just got to discipline myself to work one thing at a time maybe for.
Speaker A: Yeah, I understand that. There was times when I was trucking, I'd be out for a couple weeks at a time. There was. There was times where I would just
Speaker C: have to just not. Not even turn anything on during the day.
Speaker A: Super 5 2. I always ran 52 5. But yeah, there was times where I just keep everything shut off, listen to the good old AM FM radio. Well, the music, I should say. I didn't listen to the AM FM side of the radio, but I did listen to Pandora. Pandora was my big thing back then. Nowadays I just use YouTube music. They've got a nice, nice music library there set up and you can really find anything, anything you want there. Colombian or American stuff, you know.
Speaker B: Okay. I've been listening to Pandora, so. And I just discovered I do have Amazon with my client. I do have Amazon music.
Speaker C: So. What really complicates things that, you know,
Speaker B: everything I do on my iPad, iPhone
Speaker C: or computer, it's all talking to me.
Speaker B: You know, everything I do is talking to me.
Speaker C: So I got that voice always going at me. And then there's everything else with speakers and stuff on the notes or whatever. Probably listen to music more, but I've always got these donations. I'm always doing something on my iPad or the email or the cell phone or whatever.
Speaker A: Yeah, I can, I can understand that. With your. Yeah, with your permanent, permanent condition there. Yeah, you got a lot of things talking at You?
Speaker B: Yeah, and I have a real difficult
Speaker C: time just sitting listening to one thing. Just listen. Just listen. I always got to be doing something with the emails or something, So that's what's going on here.
Speaker B: But all is good now.
Speaker C: All is good.
Speaker A: All right, good to hear. Good to hear. You still doing the.
Speaker C: The net.
Speaker A: When is your net?
Speaker C: Saturdays or Sundays.
Speaker A: I forgot now.
Speaker B: Any hands net, I do it on
Speaker C: Fridays at noon eastern time and now I'm doing a Saturday net on blind man. Regarding the SARS RS, yesterday was my third week. I think I do that every Saturday at
Speaker A: 1:00pm
Speaker C: Eastern Time.
Speaker A: Okay. All right, well, our Internet company, they fixed my Internet. Although yesterday morning they had a red light on my box. We think the wind may have knocked something down out here on the main street. They were out here early. I think they had it back in the working by noon yesterday.
Speaker C: All right, well,
Speaker A: good to hear. Yet public. My wife is getting ready to hang up with her phone call. I, I don't. I think. I think. I think it's going to be one of those evenings where I have to stay out of the kitchen. I think she wants to make dinner all by herself. But I'm okay with that. But I still have to offer to help. Okay, Larry? I do. You may hear me on here a little bit with J. Jeff. I think he wants to. I think he wants to work on something there. So I may be on Team View with him and talking to him here over the radio. All right, so you take care and hope it's. Hope it's not too cold for you up there. I know I'm in the low 80s here right now with scattered thunderstorms. You take care of Ken here.
Speaker C: N6 knew we're having a really nice day. 56 degrees here right now. The sunshine and that's nice. Nice day this time of year for us. All right, good as ours. We came north up there more often. Again, enjoy your afternoon and dinner.

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Speaker A: Are you calling me john? N6mvc. You were dropping out on that last one. I want to leave position and try again. Okay, well, noisy on that one, but I think you're asking what my location was. I am. If that's the case, I am here at home in Northern California in the Bay Area.
Speaker B: All right. Yeah, I'm on HP in a car. So yeah, I just did a little demo here. I thought, who can I call this kind of far away? All right, Tom, keep care 73 from NR 70 Las Vegas. Hopefully you're hearing me okay. I'm just gonna hand scratch you with a stop. Five watts and admittedly a broken antenna, so do the best I can there.
Speaker A: Okay, well, that last one was all copy. Full copy on the last one. So it's a beautiful day here. Sun's outs and no winds and you know, cooler temps. But I'll take that over rain and freezing temp. So enjoy it while we can. All right, talk to you later at 6pm Z.
Speaker B: Okay, tom. Tom 73. Take care.
Speaker A: Nr7. Hey, John, is Columbia far enough away for you? And hello to you there, Tom.
Speaker B: Yeah, she said, wow. So yeah, Lady Angela from my church, her daughter Jasmine were sitting in the line at the drive through and she told me she's got TMRS radio and I told her I have Amria right
Speaker A: here in the car.
Speaker B: So yeah, Columbia. We'll take Columbia, South America.
Speaker A: She's like, wow.
Speaker B: Yeah, so Ambria. So maybe a potential we can get her to get her ticket and go take a spot. All right, Ken.
Speaker A: Tom. Ken, take care.
Speaker B: We're approaching the pay one do an in and out burger on Rock Springs and Lake Mead here in Northwest Las Vegas. Taking her doing a ride home after church. So keep a cool tool. NR7G Vegas.
Speaker A: All right, take care. Yeah, I miss. I miss the old in n out n 6 kne genalta columbia. Hey, Karen, while you're hopefully still there, and I am too, have you and Jeff been able to make any progress with that 330 interface ship? I think he wanted me to team view into his stuff sometime today. I'm not sure what we're going to try to accomplish today, but we'll see. So the answer is no. And so let me ask you, do you think he's just trying to use the serial port instead of. Instead of the sound card? No. No. I'm sorry, I thought. I thought you understood what I was trying to say the other day. Now the serial port is to talk to the controller through the back door, basically just as a command line interface for sending and receiving commands, checking status of the controller itself internally, making any configuration changes to the controller remotely. Nothing to do with the radio port audio and, you know, push to talk and cor and all that stuff. Strictly to, you know, talk to the controller as an administrator via keyboard. Okay. Yeah, I thought so. I just wanted to confirm. Okay, well, I'm sure he's going to send me an email here soon enough. Or give me a shout here on the radio. Okay, well, you enjoy whatever it is you're doing, and we'll get back to helping the wife here. But I will be listening in 6K and E. All right, Maybe he's listening, too. We'll see. Try and light a fire somehow under. You know what? Okay. Talk to you later.

Speaker A: Hey, Ralph, what's going on? Sending.
Speaker B: I got the very back half of the conversation. I trying to figure out how to do that on your controller. Have you already got.
Speaker A: Well, I guess I am not qualified to answer that question yet because I know that they're both in the midst of working on it. But from what I remember, I thought we have it built in on the PI and. Or at least something with the handpoip files or capabilities and I want to say the type. In the past, we came out of the PI with one of the USBs and went right into the 7330 controller with a BB9 connector. So I think they're going to try and you know, go over that hopefully today and. But I'm sure Ken's listening and if not, I won't mention it in case they in a roadblock or something. So this is an additional piece of gear that goes in between because they've already got a. Call it a URI or UTI or something. I think it's a uri. It's a radio interface box that goes from the PI to the controller into a radio port. But I think that's strictly for the radio telemetry and control and stuff like that.
Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. This is a separal thing. We run most of the types. We run RTM and that's just the radio control. So this is a separate box that just give it an RJ45 Ethernet connector on one end and on the other and it talks directly to the controller and telnet into it. So anyways, if you guys got a solution, great. If not, I give your recommendation. It works really well. No, I did. $20 on amaz.
Speaker A: Okay, got it. And that's a separate. Completely separate deal. Standalone. Nothing to do with any of the All Star boxes. Whatever. Right.
Speaker B: Correct. Address.
Speaker A: Okay, got it. Thank you. I will pass it on. If they're going to need something, I think we use something similar to that at a couple of sites that did not have. We weren't using the All Star at, but we had remote access. But I can't remember what they are, so. But anyway. Okay, thank you. All right, have a good one.
Speaker B: All right, man. Take care.

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Kilo Oscar Six, Hotel Victor Sierra. Kilo Oscar Six, Hotel Victor Sierra. Is something crazy with my radio or is there something going on with the repeater? I keep getting hearing nothing but static on it.

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Speaker A: K9V A Z to keep me calling from Santa Ana, California. Can anybody in Mesquite Nevada hear my communication?
Speaker B: Do it from your phone.
Speaker A: Yeah, you can do it from phone computer. I'm on digitized also so right now I don't have a radio. My hand. Can you repeat that last please?
Speaker B: Yeah, you're. I think you're using a BOIC type. What do you call it? Using your phone or something. Make sure you get that PCT up. We heard you hear complaining to your friend. You were still. You're still transient. So yeah, I'm here in Vegas hear you good grade. So you said you're in California now.
Speaker A: All the live streams because it was broken up but this is K9 Dag David Key. I'm all. I'm from the state Nevada but in Santa Ana showing my son and daughter in law how the system operates because they're interested.
Speaker B: Nice. Well very good. Yeah I'm in Vegas right now on my HD inside the house using a clear note. I'm on all stars digital mode through your phone. So yeah, I'm copying you. Okay. So yeah, Santa Ana. Maybe you're going to Disneyland or something.
Speaker A: No, we're not going to Disneyland, but we are literally sitting just about a few miles away from it.
Speaker B: Oh, very good. Yeah I copy you loud and clear. So very good. David 73 from NR7G Northwest Las Vegas.
Speaker A: 73 back to you. This is k9v8 david g. We are clear.

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Jj7 the next radio check on the. Loud and clear. Good audio, good signal. And six kne. Thanks, sir. Just stuck an antenna in my attic to see if this works. Thank you very much, 73. All right, you have your shovel? Good day at 6, Kenny.

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Speaker A: N6kn.e n6kne6qov.
Speaker B: Well, hello, Jeff. I thought you'd be calling me here cooking. Well,
Speaker A: I just sent you the latest password for the tv. I've got the All Star node here connected to the serial port of the Fcom 7330. It needs to be. But I want to have you get on it and bring up the minicom, because I need to. I need. That's what I think we need to look at. And we may. I don't know if we have to do a little something or we may have to do nothing. I'm not certain yet. So that's where we're at right now, is just bring up minicom. On it.
Speaker B: Okay, I will most definitely help the best I can. Still not. I still don't understand a lot of that, but let me see what I can do here. Give me one second and I'll get in on two viewers.
Speaker A: Yep. Okay, I missed the first half of that because I'm switching my speaker off and on, so I don't pull duplex here. But yeah, I'll wait to see team viewers switch colors here, let you know you're on.
Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, it'll just be a minute here.

Okay, I'm watching. Am I watching you or are you watching me? Oh, at the moment, I'm watching you. Go ahead and log on to the All Star and bring up minicomp. The All Stars IP currently ends in 1 01. Because I am on a different All Star hardware. I have two of them built here, so I'm just burning in the spare to bring with us just in case. But it's the same SD card, so it ends in 1 01. So, yeah, go ahead and bring it up. And 6Q will be.

You sure it's 1 0? You said 1 01, correct? Yes, that's what I thought I heard it say when it came up, because it is announcing. Now, if that's not working, you can try the the original numbers that we were using. I mean, maybe I heard it wrong, or I can power cycle it and see what it yells at me. Or. Or we go back to the other hardware that we know. But yeah, should have been 101. Or try the old.

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Yeah. What the heck? Like I say, I've got two all Stars here, and we've been on the other one, so I just wanted to, you know, power this one for a few days and make sure it stable as a spare, because the trip, you know. So long. Bring the second one. So that's what we're on. I'm on right now, but it's the same SD card. But I could have swore I heard it say 101, so I could power cycle and see what it says to me. Yeah, that. That may be what we need to do. Go ahead. Let's see what comes up with it. Okay. Power cycle. So give it a couple seconds to come up here.

Yeah. It came back and said one zero one. All right, I'm showing the node is up and connected.

Speaker A: Well, that is weird. Unless it's contending with something else here, but I don't think it would be. Well, it will only take me a minute or so to put the old hardware back on there if we want to do that. And then we'll be back to 85.
Speaker B: Let me see if I can get angry. Get angry? IP to work to cooperate here. We haven't had much luck with that, have we? Yeah, there's a. There's an icon there for it. Okay, go ahead and. Let me try one more thing.

All right. Yeah, that 101 just isn't doing it. Wait.

Yeah. Okay, let's. We'll have to swap it around, I guess. Yeah. Okay. It looks like we're fighting two different problems now, so let me just take a second to power this one down. I know I went on it, but I don't remember if it was with the. The old hardware box or this new or the vanilla one, so. All right, give me just a minute.

There we go. All right, it's coming up. Kilo oscar six, hotel victor sierra.

Okay. Sorry, I had to step away for a moment. Kilo oscar six, hotel victor sierra.

Which means the other one was probably just fine. But I'll leave it, because it doesn't matter which one you try. Okay, now we're on the same subnet. I have more than one here at the house. So a laptop comes up once in a while, it picks another one. I guess it goes for the strongest or something. So give it another try. What's 85?

There we go. Okay. Is that what you were looking for? All right, that's the minicom screen that you were talking about. Actually, I was there poking around, and I didn't find what I was looking for. Somehow we need to get from here to a prompt. I don't think it's a bash shell, Maybe. I mean, that'll get us to a prompt and go there. Now, if I do this. Let me. Let me go ahead and check. Which we're kind of already running. Hang on. Yeah, there you go. See, it says that that's not found, so I can't run it from here. But we need to run something so that we can get to that USB port on this All Star that is connected to the serial port. So this is the piece. One piece of the puzzle we're missing is we need something to access the usb, which is already connected up to the serial port, and it's ready to go. It's sending data to the All Star, but we need to get to it. We somehow need to telemat or H or something, but I just don't quite know.

Some of those. Looks like it's me. I was looking around for minicom. So the. The where is and the witch and stuff was me yesterday or a couple days ago.

Give me one second.

Speaker A: To go back to that nano ASL menu.
Speaker B: I wanted to look at the options at the bottom. That's what I'm trying to bring up. And I. Well, there it
Speaker A: was, but it went away. Oh, yeah, that. That wasn't he
Speaker B: not a
Speaker A: big guy. I know what you're looking for. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to read the little list at the bottom of that nano menu and see if there were any options there that looked, you know, had potential problems. Okay.
Speaker B: Station talking. I don't know if you realize it or not, but you're actually
Speaker A: talking on Carla. It's been talking local K8.0 WWT. Oh, yeah, yeah. We do know we're kind of a distance from each other and trying to figure something out here that we should probably be throwing a call in just a little more often. N6QOP on this end near the Oakland Airport. N 6k in each. And now to Columbia.

Yeah, see, this is a new file, and there's nothing here. I'm trying to get to the ESL menu, but I'm in the wrong. I'm in the wrong file here.

Speaker A: Right here gives us the option to go to a different USB port, but we don't. We don't have any more setup. We don't have any other ones set up.
Speaker B: So I'm looking at the screen
Speaker C: here. Where are you talking the option to go to a different USB port.
Speaker A: The top one, the S Select Active USB device Stanza. And because we only have one node number set up, it's only allowing us to, You know, make changes to that one.
Speaker B: Okay,
Speaker C: so are we able to set up multiple node numbers on a single piece of hardware like this? Because it has four USB ports, It's kind of why I'm asking.
Speaker A: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We can put three of them on here. On a pi3B plush. We can put three build numbers on there.
Speaker B: Let me look at something.

Okay, I'm looking at the way we had it set up in the past, and we're using the same IP address, so that would suggest to me the same node and node number that we're not changing that to get to the serial port, but we're changing that. The port number that you append to the IP address, 14 gets you to the All Star, and 15 gets you through Star to the serial port. And this is using Telnet. But I don't know how, if we like, if we use Telnet at the Bash, I don't know what command to give it. Oh, well, we're not there now, but if we're at the Bash pump, I don't know what to append to Telnet, if that's the way to go.

Speaker A: Oh, 101 is the other piece of hardware. Yeah, you're gonna need that. There you go.
Speaker B: So see, right here in Superbond, we can add more node numbers which would use. Which would use other usb, other USB device.
Speaker A: Yeah, we should not have to do that because we were not doing that before. We're just using a different port number on the same node, and I think it would get a start stuck at the same spot. So there's either a command at the bash line, and I don't know if it's telnet or ssh maybe, but then we need to give it something, and I don't know what argument to give
Speaker B: it,
Speaker A: Or if we need some little thing loaded onto the All Star node so that we, you know, we can bring it up and have it address that USB port. I could ask the FCOM users group. I'm sure there's a bunch of All Stars connected owner users using All Star on the 73 30s, and they've probably done this, you probably know, the commander or the, the one little Secret Squirrel command that we're missing here.
Speaker B: All right. Yeah. And like I said, I, you know, it's all brand new to me. I've never, I've never done this before. Like, like that. Like, I don't think they're adding. I know you didn't have two node numbers for one site.
Speaker A: I know we have one.
Speaker B: I think seven, not seven. We had two node numbers just because we thought we, we did that just in case we wanted to play with it, but it turned out we didn't need it. But anyways, right here, you scroll down and you go to end or first node. You can add, you can add a second node in here. Right here where it says end the first node. We can add a second node number right here. But like I said, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think any of your stuff has ever had that.
Speaker A: System11 link up. Let me show you something. Yeah, this here, what I was showing you. Boy, now I'm getting coughing. What I'm showing you right here is this was Oak Hill and we're using 10, 130. You know, we were using 135 there. And then this was the Oak hill to the 7330 serial port. And we're using 135 and the bulk of same node number.
Speaker B: If you look at this.
Speaker A: Let me bring it up just a second here. Same ip, so it's the same node number, but we're using this port to get to the All Star itself, and then for Oak Hill, and then for Oak Hill here, for the 7,330 we're using. Where'd it go? Did you do or did I do? Oh, my bad. For the 7330, Carl was 7330. See, right here, look at property. Same IP address. So it's the same node number, but it's just a different port. And that's how we did it before, but somebody else set it up. So I don't know. Like I say, I don't know the Secret Squirrel formula. Right there. There's like one command or one small app that we're missing.
Speaker B: Jeff,
Speaker A: Who's that?
Speaker B: First of all, why are you guys on the local? And second of all, wasn't that done through the reverse SFH that was set up?
Speaker A: Why are we on local? Is that what you ask? Because we're not on local. Well aware of that, and I think so. And I don't know if there was something in that as well as a big thing, but I don't know that that necessary entry necessarily instrumental in getting us there.
Speaker B: Okay, I guess I know you're not on the local. All right, well, you know, you remember you had to use a different program before to get in the back door, whatever that was. Seguin or some other thing. I can't remember, but. And then another stupid question since everybody's doing it nowadays. Have you tried querying the Internet and that AI thingamajig they keep talking about, see if you come up with anything?
Speaker A: And then.
Speaker B: Jen, did you say you found something referencing Talking to the 7330 with the ham Voight people and all that? Yeah, I sent those links to Jeff and he didn't see anything that looked familiar. I heard you talking to Ralph earlier.
Speaker A: Did Ralph what we were trying to do.
Speaker B: And Ralph, if you're listening, do you know what we're trying to do?
Speaker A: Then if we have to, we.
Speaker B: Jeff, we can disconnect from here and go over to the Carla admin hub.
Speaker A: That's probably what we should have done, was disconnect from the network and
Speaker B: go
Speaker A: to the cone of silence so that you and I are just talking to each other. But yeah, Ralph was talking about something totally non All Star, you know, a different way of doing it, which we could do, but this added hardware stuff, and we did it on the All Star, which we all have all set up, so we could just figure out and bridge this one little thing
Speaker B: we
Speaker A: would need to purchase a bunch of more Stuff. In fact, I have something similar, I think, to what he's talking about here, but I only have one and that's like I say, it's a totally different thing and we've done it through the All Star. So, you know, why not use existing hardware is all questions there. And yeah, the links you sent me are to use the All Star's controller, radio controller instead of a 7330 shows you how to set up cor and push to talk and everything and make the All Star the controller Instead of the 7,330 of the site, which we don't want to do. So yeah, that's something a little bit different. Every time I googled it, it took the word serial out and was trying to talk me into connecting it to one of the radio ports instead of the serial port. So AI isn't quite there yet, in my opinion. Anyway, let me throw it back to Tom N6QOP in the group.
Speaker B: What not raise your prime time yet. I don't know what you're talking about. Like everybody think it's the, you know, end all deal some things is good for, but a lot of fact finding stuff and whatever places, you know, the thing goes garbage in, garbage out anyway. All right. I didn't realize that's what that was. So I'm sure it could be done.
Speaker A: Yeah.
Speaker B: Figure out what the. In addition to 7330, I would also check like the ham wave or whatever else are. And you know, I keep telling you I could give you some info. Dave Shaw is one of them, A couple other people. And lastly, yeah, what I think Grandpa's talking about with the camera box, Which we shouldn't need to do. So that is a significant volunteer with that I guess I will let you guys.
Speaker A: Yes, and you certainly did accomplish that last part. All right, well, I was kind of hoping for today that the. We could get on the All Star and get some Minicom, which is a program that will connect, you know, and give you the serial port that we're looking for. But the All Star has a menu on the mini commons that's not the complete answer. So we're still missing a little piece of the puzzle. I think I'm going to send something to the Escom users group because there's probably five guys that'll pop up saying, oh yeah, just do this. I think we're just missing the command name or something. Or maybe there's a small app we have to add to the All Star to get it to do it. I don't know which or it may already be there. Like I say, Minicom would do it but it's locked in All Star stuff so at least the best I can see so but otherwise it's cabled the cabling is good to go so we may have to back over to Ken. We may have to stop at this point and do just a little more research. N6QoP.
Speaker B: Okay, I'm going to look around in here for just a minute. Tell me if anything pops up that looks like looks interesting to you. A couple other quick things that came to mind. If you have to change any serial port settings for it to, you know, do a solution or whatever you might have to keep it the laptop and two might have better luck actually with you know, All Star and Void signator. This because you know S. Com is limited to one controller with the All Star whereas if you go the other route it's the All Star versus multiple different controllers and you know, serial interfaces and stuff like that and probably more chances to be able to get some helpful information.

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You see anything here that looks. Looks interesting? Jeff? Not really. I had actually looked through these files, but I was looking for anything related to the word serial. Very important. But I wonder if they have in one of these files as configuring a USB port on the All Star for something. I didn't look for USB configure stuff.

Speaker A: See here we're using this usb,
Speaker B: a
Speaker A: simple USB channel driver. And that's our node number. Scroll down. We can watch to use another USB port down here. Well, I deleted them. Let me add this back in here. Okay.
Speaker B: But I think that's going to be to configure an actual node, which I don't. I don't know if there's going to be anything in there for us to use for this. And if so, I wouldn't know what to change it to.
Speaker A: Yeah, I think we're just going to have to do some research. All right.
Speaker B: If you want to.
Speaker A: If you want to check with the Escom, those who are using Escom and All Star together, I'm going to. I'm going to keep looking on the Amboy side of things and All Star side of things, see what I can find.
Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Yeah. Like I say, I'm sure that I post that question. ESCOM users will come out of the woodwork to try and answer it. And I'm sure there's a few out there. In fact, that's where I got some of the answers to get me this far. I saw on there somebody had asked Owl back in. I'm trying to think 2018 or something. Can you use the All Star to talk to the serial port of your escom? And a couple of the answers were, yeah, just simply hook this cable to it. But then, you know, they stopped right there. There was no other explanation. So I was kind of thinking it might be a quick research and get it done here online. But I think we're missing a key element still. So I'll just repost, repost the new and see what they come up with. And something might have gotten better than it was in 2018, too. Might even be even easier. So let's maybe do that at this point. It's not a real show killer if we don't get that accomplished before next week. And I'll put the cable in place up there down there. So we should still be able to remote access it and do whatever we need to do. We may still be ready to go as long as we don't have to touch the hardware. And I, at this point, I kind of don't think so. Like, it's not a showstopper. It'd just be really nice to have, which is why I was hoping to have been able to do this all at seven before, you know, because it's close to access, so. All right, let's maybe put a bookmark in it right here.
Speaker A: Okay, let me know if you find anything, and I'll let you know if I find anything. Okay, Jeff, take care. I'll go ahead and log out of here and fix pe.
Speaker B: Yep. Okay. Wish we'd got a little bit more out of the time we just spent last hour, but it did still tell me a thing or two here, so I don't know what I'm gonna ask. All right, we will talk at you another time. And have a good rest of your weekend. What's the Sunday? That's what I'm gonna go do. Do by N6.
Speaker A: We'll connect to the admin hub next time. Get off here.

Speaker A: System 19 link up.
Speaker B: Hey, Jeff, real quick. Sorry I didn't hear what you just said, but are you, you're going into, into a repeater, right? Or are you using one of your radialist nodes.
Speaker C: Right now? I'm, I've been going through the radio less node talking to you on this little project just now. Yeah.
Speaker B: Okay, you can disconnect from here. In fact, why don't you do that? Just go ahead and disconnect from here and then connect that to the 64689. Then we can isolate that real easy. I think I have your, your startup macro comes here, but if you want, you can just disconnect from here and go to the other one. You know how to do that, right? Using ttmf?
Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. I get, I get the commands confused because I don't use them often, but yeah, I can do that. You want to do that now? Give me just a minute. I'll call you on 64689 as soon as I do a memory recall. Yeah,
Speaker B: Okay. I'm going to send you an email real quick. I'll give you the, give you the numbers, just. Just in case you don't remember.
Speaker C: Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's good. Then I'll have them written down anyway, so if we do this again in a month, I'll have them written down. All right. Yeah, we should have done this anyway, tighten up the whole system. I didn't think this was going to take more than a few minutes, though. I was hoping the answer would be right in front of us when we brought up the minutes on stuff. All right, I'll call you in a minute. N6QOP.
Speaker A: You're still here.
Speaker B: Still here. I'll send. I sent you an email. Yay, he did it. And six candy.

Sorry about that, Jeff. I didn't have you whitelisted. I just added you in there. You're connected now. Why am I still on Carla? Because I'm still connected. Let me disconnect it. Oh, oh, oh, okay.